From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x129.google.com (mail-lf1-x129.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 597FA3CB35 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 08:36:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x129.google.com with SMTP id a9so4168417lfb.8 for ; Mon, 04 May 2020 05:36:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=R6H2R49wnLfhtRBykQMlxhSWycDZzn8K15FkMfx91S0=; b=oVZxERa+NyhSD/tAiC25OKctkjg7wvN2Eeref3V3iJCcs0hCbe6V9+4rZ0fDiaDRjR WedS6jrtsLe8P8KyH0RssDh9kBcF2j8X7xWfOZ6rSMJzXvV9smJ1EwkldrSe2TOOmVZO X5CfNDhBOIMRAZPkjY8sPXMxz0/IU5q4CVraeC4p1xHzE+W+IZ4iO2fC7rlhHQco1Y9j rnGwXCZByFD8rXeJZF81Mxh0gJMwEJIRq+0Q4jODmJkqDZBWN0OP70jY3lE8m9Fa7RC8 2HI3LkfQgxTwoLF3CM2r4L8ZujAfglQ58xWqSkFLIlG735zd1r3U6TkVWP4/CFITS+AI mXoQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=R6H2R49wnLfhtRBykQMlxhSWycDZzn8K15FkMfx91S0=; b=tRavfTRZnnmimxocmMANYi5NF7ADNTAt0/97uar3bUrLsPZS0zZ8GgkYU+B4hQR8fJ uujQcdTywWg6rEi65HaQ0bf3Xi71uR94rzGcz39id1AH9sCLz+3sgvkhQl/KCDqnON/E iXqKVN66sikxuVNpDcFc8tVnoVnQFR05FWJ4JkAAWEyHgWel4S395vDC7G5xawoRxyML tKiFxpiZEyYIMeeaB1z5womBa4DgjectSeuwOk6vbMby6pXMZovY7/qzLWdYKMtQuAUk 642q+37MNwC9ojKoEAT9yS3dimhLvWiwP++plTvZgCs5ev40bsjWa4O+/OOaez01wS3t moPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYd//INspT05NIsPEjXrdoAjSheodd82cuKSa5fDwyKJ00vWIGm EyzVbksCcM6LFTbd8U+Ixfk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJ4iMDc7+t1Wzq8kGn1Vbx7hA59nVWquX2LDg9ONCMhFvtTt06Y80+9gBvTlR7vSnCMERyM6w== X-Received: by 2002:ac2:4105:: with SMTP id b5mr11717990lfi.94.1588595764238; Mon, 04 May 2020 05:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (83-245-235-192-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.235.192]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j13sm9704291lfb.19.2020.05.04.05.36.03 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 04 May 2020 05:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <20200504142626.1104b959@lake.home.lan> Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 15:36:01 +0300 Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <510AE0B9-A965-4438-9F73-3223A53D6C58@gmail.com> References: <20200504142626.1104b959@lake.home.lan> To: =?utf-8?Q?Richard_Fr=C3=B6hning?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Bloat] Does it makes sense to shape traffic with 16Kbit/s up and 16Kbit/s down? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 12:36:05 -0000 > On 4 May, 2020, at 3:26 pm, Richard Fr=C3=B6hning = wrote: >=20 > And if so, which queue discipline would work best with it? >=20 > Background: I am forced to use my cell phone as uplink and after I > reach the monthly limit, bandwidth will be reduces to given = up/downlink > speeds. >=20 > I know Surfing websites with those speeds will take forever - however > it should be enough to send/receive emails and/or use a messenger. You should be able to do this with Cake. Unlike most other qdiscs, it = will automatically adjust several parameters to work nicely with = low-speed links, because with the built-in shaper it has knowledge of = the speed. I don't think I've tested it as low as 16Kbit, but I have = used it at 64Kbit. To keep things simple, you may want to specify "besteffort flows = satellite" as parameters. Some of those settings may also be available = in a GUI. - Jonathan Morton