* [Bloat] Fwd: [Internet Policy] Back to the root justification...
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@ 2014-06-07 14:48 ` David Collier-Brown
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From: David Collier-Brown @ 2014-06-07 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
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For people interested, there is a discussion of the roots of the
"network neutrality" concept at internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org
Some of it seems, to my eyes, to be uninformed by the community that
works in the AQM space, so I see perfectly serious quotes like
>
> Longer packets might be dropped in favor of shorter ones. Packets
> in a
> burst might be dropped in favor of ones that are spaced out.
>
> This gets back to the point of neutrality - which describes some
> level
> of "equivalence", but there's never just one version of
> equivalence that
> everyone will accept.
>
> If you want to preserve the Internet architecture, you need to
> make sure
> that:
>
> Packets shall not be discriminated except on their inherent
> properties (size, time of arrival) or explicit user-inserted
> label (e.g., a QoS tag).
>
> If you want to make sure that packets are "fairly dropped",
> there's no
> single such thing; one link might be bandwidth limited (so drop
> proportional to length is fair), and the next might be header
> processing
> limited (so per-packet drop is fair); for a given path, there's no
> single mechanism that satisfies the variety of fairnesses that
> could be
> required.
>
If anyone's also interested in Network Neutrality and its roots, please
feel free to hop over and contribute some informed opinions (;-))
--dave
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