From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from nm16-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm16-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F78921F2C5 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [216.39.60.173] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2014 19:43:42 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.146] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2014 19:43:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2014 19:43:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1404848622; bh=QTObl5bVSRND0040HZbD/IMNVZcEmk1113Jk2BEk4KA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cj+Yhf9hBFS6RIjpSFoVjBQ9owcZkWAQNsVrgxeTOqAzFlZKav41kOUhuo0x7FrauPVfBrXk1lPQxjp9f7AJ8sR/ylAji2CMgtTeoKAbUeJMN7wnwQh5XqfUlQ5V7dZu8+ra60o0WvGOeN6vcjz/zafQGyoOUyTWVjWRUoGN928= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 549711.39293.bm@smtp118.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: mAKDsxcVM1nqKhpfzVlcUQ2OuM8z12PEgkXNf3zpxFqxLiF _JWZk9A3TjFOK_874jE0lyK77HWNf1Rl61a61b0SleFzKaiz2.C03r.rTDk9 QrjN1wknK_2T.SYm8rGxdiOGNBqCFiGoUZs1oecHk5plQV_yd1VMlSSOLPlV f7qidlX51_DhCeQgbEiAHPkRKsJJwgTDKRJRGDb.LV4ln92qMHQWJfEVYNDn .bayB0tTfKLMBpCcX17kN01QVlNYdJL_P1eNh8P9DmQMX4hg0KOY5cDcyQ58 .d6Cv0WLXcCk_QYzVtT9LB_lkly6JPoqvqnFBTx.5CdfzCVuDGz7tG..kAM0 98Fh_u5MoIdrUqyJWP8FUlMM6omctQ6e9w8b18Rh9Z8G4oQvsoV_HxfADcSe iTgmQWiiMgxgiNjpLqOvtE0TuSWheUMivcXdbT5QpQvoIM7Lf7y7UNVPerZf DMH0gonzrSAZhNvqqHGO.fGRgtKL_T7KcnW078u1oe2OOczy0Dm1nwImzKOf t.J3GNVF.Tkpd8uufsUZlwe1yLdw1lmMRXQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: sltvjZWswBCRD.ElTuB1l9j6s9wRYPpuyTNWOE5oEg-- X-Rocket-Received: from [10.111.100.146] (davec-b@74.213.188.46 with plain [67.195.22.104]) by smtp118.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Jul 2014 19:43:42 +0000 UTC Message-ID: <53BC49EC.1090201@rogers.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 15:43:40 -0400 From: David Collier-Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Bloat] fq_codel, high bandwidth, and delays X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: davecb@spamcop.net List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 19:43:43 -0000 David Lang wrote: > Part of the answer for them is "don't do that" :-) > > There are many tools around to move massive amounts of data through multiple > parallel TCP connections so that if one connection gets a lost packet, it > doesn't kill the entire flow, only the one connection slows down (if it's true > congestion, then all the flows will be slowed) > > David Lang Can you suggest one that also allows the total bandwidth to be limited? I recollect similar problem distributing "films" to early digital theatres, and their fix for low throughput needed an anti-fix for induced congestion (;-)) --dave -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain