From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from g2t2353.austin.hp.com (g2t2353.austin.hp.com [15.217.128.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.hp.com", Issuer "VeriSign Class 3 Secure Server CA - G3" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6508521F3AA for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 09:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from g5t1633.atlanta.hp.com (g5t1633.atlanta.hp.com [16.201.144.132]) by g2t2353.austin.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4489A for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 16:09:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [16.103.148.51] (tardy.usa.hp.com [16.103.148.51]) by g5t1633.atlanta.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23F4A0 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 16:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <553A6AC0.7000405@hp.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 09:09:36 -0700 From: Rick Jones User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <87wq18jmak.fsf@toke.dk> <87oamkjfhf.fsf@toke.dk> <87k2x8jcnw.fsf@toke.dk> <0D391BB1-9CA5-4DAF-8FD6-6628AB09C1C5@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Bloat] DSLReports Speed Test has latency measurement built-in X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 16:10:18 -0000 On 04/23/2015 08:39 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > I have also sent mail and tweets to no effect. > > I hereby donate 1k to the "bufferbloat testing vs gogo-in-flight legal > defense fund". Anyone that gets busted by testing for bufferbloat on > an airplane using these new tools or the rrul test can tap me for > that. Anyone else willing to chip in?[1] > > I note that tweeting in the air after such a test might be impossible > (on at least one bloat test done so far the connection never came > back) so you'd probably have to tweet something like > > "I am about to test for bufferbloat on my flight. If I do not tweet > again for the next 4 hours, I blew up gogo-in-flight, and expect to be > met by secret service agents on landing with no sense of humor about > how network congestion control is supposed to work." > > FIRST. (and shrink the above to 140 pithy characters) > > [1] I guess this makes me liable for inciting someone to do a network > test, also, which I hope is not illegal (?). I personally don't want > to do the test as I have better things to do than rewrite walden and > am not fond of roomates named "bubba". > > ... but I admit to being tempted. Please don't. I don't want netperf classified as a munition :) Plausible deniability might be your friend. "All I was doing was trying to [upload my 1 GB powerpoint presentation I just finished | download the 1 GB powerpoint presentation I had to work-on ] and it seemed to be taking forever, so I was worried something was wrong and decided to ping to check connectivity. That is when I noticed the latency was so high..." rick jones Anyone who wants to read the story about how netperf took-out a corporate video security system - twice - and why the netperf UDP_STREAM test is no longer over a routable socket by default should feel free to contact me.