From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail28c40.carrierzone.com (mail28c40.carrierzone.com [209.235.156.168]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A08BF21F36E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 18:24:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authenticated-User: games.djlatino.com Received: from [192.168.88.249] (pool-100-0-39-91.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [100.0.39.91]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail28c40.carrierzone.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t391OaTk024557 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Apr 2015 01:24:40 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Antonio Ortiz X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12D508) In-Reply-To: <20150408151833.6df30df0@urahara> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 21:24:35 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <553BE523-7B4E-40DB-ACCA-BDFA0634AF08@djlatino.com> References: <20150408080549.znwuh3b28wco4g8g@webmail.cs.aplus.net> <20150408151833.6df30df0@urahara> To: Stephen Hemminger X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020203.5525D4D9.002B, ss=1, re=0.001, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.001 X-CTCH-Rules: C_4847, X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.1 cv=bfFSDo/B c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=uENNinW/L/nuRs6fuJoFdA==:117 a=uENNinW/L/nuRs6fuJoFdA==:17 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=g0qM3YM6AAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OyIY13bhAAAA:8 a=jZVsG21pAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=kurRqvosAAAA:8 a=3rt8SQ0vVt6mRthUQ0YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-Origin-Country: US Cc: Alex Elsayed , "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Bloat] Question about Buffer Bloat and Verizon Fios X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 01:25:13 -0000 I'm going to order them from Amazon. A pair of moca is $110.00. Thanks Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 8, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Stephen Hemminger = wrote: >=20 > On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 09:56:48 -0700 > Alex Elsayed wrote: >=20 >> Dave Taht wrote: >>=20 >>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 5:05 AM, wrote: >> >>>> Reason is Verizon has a combo router/modem. >>>=20 >>> They CAN be configured in a bridge mode if you desire, but you can >>> usually just put cero in front of it to do everything else >>> (shaping/wifi) and be golden. >>>=20 >>> See the intertubes for how to switch to bridging verizon gear (if you >>> want to). It is overly complex. >>=20 >> >>=20 >> There's actually even more nuance to it than that: >>=20 >> FiOS (although, I thought that was owned by Frontier now? It certainly wa= s=20 >> when I had it up here [.wa.us]) with TV service requires MoCA (Multimedia= =20 >> over CoAxial), and thus requires the use of their (awful) combined=20 >> router/wifi/MoCA bridge that connects to the ONT (Optical Network Termina= l)=20 >> over MoCA. In that case, you need to set it up to bridge to your own rout= er=20 >> behind it, &c. >>=20 >> However, if you are using internet/phone-only FiOS service, you can get t= he=20 >> service technician to hook your router directly to the ONT via Ethernet, a= s=20 >> it supports both. >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >=20 > I am using the weird double bridge through the FioS router into a > Netgear WNDR3800 and it is stable. The issue is that the Actiontec > box does not bring everything back up after power cycle (so it is on > a UPS). >=20 > An alternative is to use a pair of MOCA modems to do MOCA to Ethernet > (and back to get to the DVR box). But it requires a bunch of changing > of MOCA frequencies; so I haven't gotten around to setting it up. > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >=20