From: Alan Jenkins <alan.christopher.jenkins@gmail.com>
To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Cc: Jim Gettys <public-jg-CC+yJ3UmIYqDUpFQwHEjaQ@plane.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] General Bufferbloat Testing Document.
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 09:55:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5557061D.8070609@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150515171757.0536e589@urahara>
On 16/05/15 01:17, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Fri, 15 May 2015 12:16:56 -0400
> Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org> wrote:
>
>> Even before I knew about the wonderful DSLreports bufferbloat test, I had
>> started working on a document to help people like that (e.g. Ookla)
>> understand how to do bufferbloat testing. The document also grew a bit
>> beyond that topic, by the time it was done....
>>
>> The document is at:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z5NN4WRKQKK-RtxtKR__XIwkybvsKEmunek2Ezdw_90/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Comments welcome.
>>
>> It's intended long term home is the bufferbloat.net wiki, but I've found
>> Google doc's commenting feature really useful.
>> - Jim
>
> Great to see, I think it does a good job of being detailed without overwhelmingly
> research oriented.
>
> What makes you believe SPDY and QUIC will be better than TCP? I know they do
> pacing but if they get the rate estimation wrong or get hit by transient congestion
> it could have same failing that doomed TCP Vegas.
HTTP/2 has working multiplexing. This means you can reduce several
simultaneous 'slow start' bursts to one. Yay!
c.f. "These transients are caused by normal users in everyday use cases
such as routine web surfing, due to embedded images inducing large
numbers of TCP connections, and TCP’s initial window and TCP “slow
start” (currently unpaced) landing in a single FIFO queue"
There's some hope sites will stop "sharding". I.e. stop hosting
resources on multiple domains to game how many connections the browser
opens. I guess it would let them avoid a round-trip from opening extra
secondary connections.
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-16 8:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-15 16:16 Jim Gettys
2015-05-16 0:17 ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-05-16 8:55 ` Alan Jenkins [this message]
2015-05-16 11:43 ` Rich Brown
2015-05-18 1:58 ` Jim Gettys
2015-05-18 11:34 ` Rich Brown
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