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From: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant <kevin@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>
To: <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cake] dslreports and inbound rate shaping
Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 11:57:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <555F0B8F.7010108@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3BDE8792-3B33-4DD6-B662-C18B2CECD183@gmail.com>


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On 21/05/2015 17:21, Jonathan Morton wrote:
>> On 19 May, 2015, at 22:17, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So I finished writing up my thoughts on bobbie,
>> http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/codel/wiki/Bobbie
>>
>> which might work better than anything on the table in the face of huge
>> bursts like these, when the rate differential is so small.
> I wonder if there’s any profit in making fq_codel and cake behave more like a policer on ingress; that would be halfway to bobbie without writing a lot of new code.
>
> A reasonable test would be to try configuring fq_codel with interval = target = 5ms.  If that works better, I could add similar functionality to cake.
>
> - Jonathan Morton
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Up for a challenge I tried it.  Line rate is 40000 down, 10000 up - Sky broadband UK VDSL2 PTM (manual overhead of 8 for VLAN tagging on WAN & VDSL2 flags)
note that I also use ECN everywhere.  From the dslreports site, with a new layout I note - nice!  Numbers at end of each line are
reported latency for idle (minimum), up (average), down (average) in ms.

Baseline:
fq_codel 37500 9700 interval 100ms http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/526382 - 109 114 112
fq_codel 37500 9700 interval 5ms   http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/526367 - 106 119 111


fq_codel 38500 9700 interval 100ms http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/526318 - 106 120 110 standing q but managed slightly better than....
fq_codel 38500 9700 interval 5ms   http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/526305 - 116 142 118 standing q


fq_codel 39000 9700 interval 100ms http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/526335 - 110 153 113 spikey spaced
fq_codel 39000 9700 interval 5ms   http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/526308 - 109 194 112 spikey closer


fq_codel 40000 9700 interval 100ms http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/526347 - 116 191 118 spikey
fq_codel 40000 9700 interval 5ms   http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/526353 - 109 172 112 spikey

I don't think tweaking intervals has given the hoped for result in my case.  If anything It looks like it increases standing latency though some of graph
scaling makes that difficult to see.  The final test looks like it's heading in a better direction but it still has 420+ms spikes.


-- 
Thanks,

Kevin@Darbyshire-Bryant.me.uk


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-22 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-19 19:17 [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2015-05-19 22:37 ` [Bloat] Fwd: " Dave Taht
2015-05-20 12:47   ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2015-05-22 14:05     ` Alan Jenkins
2015-05-25 21:39       ` jb
2015-05-26  9:13         ` Alan Jenkins
2015-05-26 11:33           ` jb
2015-05-20 13:02   ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2015-05-21 16:21 ` [Bloat] [Cake] " Jonathan Morton
2015-05-21 15:07   ` Kathleen Nichols
2015-05-21 15:26     ` Jonathan Morton
2015-05-21 16:31       ` Kathleen Nichols
2015-05-21 16:39         ` Jonathan Morton
2015-05-22  3:41           ` Aaron Wood
2015-05-22  6:32             ` Jonathan Morton
2015-05-22 10:57   ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant [this message]
2015-05-22 11:07     ` Jonathan Morton
2015-05-22 11:16       ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2015-05-25 11:26 ` [Bloat] " Mikael Abrahamsson

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