From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from emea01-am1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-am1on0098.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.112.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DB5C21F39F for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 07:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: lists.bufferbloat.net; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none; Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:183f:da2b::9b1c:6a15] (2001:470:183f:da2b::9b1c:6a15) by HE1PR07MB0937.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (25.162.27.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.184.17; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 14:33:30 +0000 Message-ID: <5571B334.7050607@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 15:33:24 +0100 From: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <7D4DDC3F-9233-4E07-B59B-AA1368CA9D4E@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090104020000030606060402" X-Originating-IP: [2001:470:183f:da2b::9b1c:6a15] X-ClientProxiedBy: DB4PR02CA0018.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com (10.242.174.146) To HE1PR07MB0937.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (25.162.27.143) X-Microsoft-Antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:HE1PR07MB0937; X-Microsoft-Antispam-PRVS: X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-Test: UriScan:; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(520003)(5005006)(3002001); SRVR:HE1PR07MB0937; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:HE1PR07MB0937; X-Forefront-PRVS: 05986C03E0 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(479174004)(24454002)(51704005)(107886002)(110136002)(92566002)(84326002)(19580405001)(19580395003)(83506001)(450100001)(77156002)(62966003)(122386002)(40100003)(59896002)(46102003)(33656002)(5001960100002)(189998001)(74482002)(5890100001)(4001350100001)(86362001)(42186005)(2351001)(19617315012)(87976001)(231993002)(16236675004)(15975445007)(512944002)(36756003)(87266999)(65816999)(50986999)(65956001)(76176999)(2950100001)(568964001)(54356999)(3826002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:HE1PR07MB0937; H:[IPv6:2001:470:183f:da2b::9b1c:6a15]; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: darbyshire-bryant.me.uk X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2015 14:33:30.2709 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1PR07MB0937 Subject: Re: [Bloat] Bloat goes away, but with ~25% speed loss? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 14:34:04 -0000 --------------ms090104020000030606060402 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000902080508050609040909" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000902080508050609040909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/06/15 21:01, Jonathan Morton wrote: > > A useful exercise might be to log the idle latency over a long period=20 > of time, and correlate it to peak load periods, as A&A do.=20 > http://aa.net.uk/kb-broadband-cqm.html . > Minor claim to 'infamy'. The line graph shown on that page is my ADSL=20 line from 4ish years ago :-) I was having a hell of a time trying to=20 convince BT to solve the packet loss issue caused by a faulty PSU in a=20 satellite receiver (one whole street away and affecting a LOT of=20 people) Andrews & Arnold (ISP) were the only people capable of hitting=20 BT with a sufficiently large cluebat. > > - Jonathan Morton > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --------------000902080508050609040909 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On 04/06/15 21:01, Jonathan Morton wrote:

A useful exercise might be to log the idle latency over a long period of time, and correlate it to peak load periods, as A&A do. http://aa.net.u= k/kb-broadband-cqm.html .

Minor claim to 'infamy'.=A0 The line graph shown on that page is my ADSL line from 4ish years ago :-)=A0 I was having a hell of a time trying to convince BT to solve the packet loss issue caused by a faulty PSU in a satellite receiver (one whole street away and affecting a LOT of people)=A0 Andrews & Arnold (ISP) were the onl= y people capable of hitting BT with a sufficiently large cluebat.

- Jonathan Morton



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