From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from river.oldelvet.net (river.oldelvet.net [46.235.226.220]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 791FA21FE3D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 01:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by river.oldelvet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A8184DAD; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:28:28 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at river.oldelvet.net Received: from river.oldelvet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (river.oldelvet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31L8Gl0HExCd; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:28:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from royalmail.oldelvet.org.uk (bede.home.oldelvet.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:1fb:1::1c]) (Authenticated sender: z-royalmail@oldelvet.net) by river.oldelvet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3937984D8B; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:28:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from cygnet.home.oldelvet.org.uk ([192.168.1.115]) by royalmail.oldelvet.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQALi-00078T-O9; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:28:26 +0100 To: jb , Dave Taht , bloat References: From: Richard Mortimer X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <55CDA6A2.605@oldelvet.org.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:28:18 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/40.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Bloat] teh tech guy has got bufferbloat bad on his link X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 08:28:54 -0000 On 14/08/2015 08:30, jb wrote: > hey, Leo is a good guy :) > > If someone was to explain to him bufferbloat he'd probably find a way to > include something on it in a future show. Leo did mention bufferbloat towards the end of that segment around 1:51 when he was explaining the dslr results screen. But it would have been nice if that had been mentioned to the caller direct. I have also heard Leo and Steve talk about bufferbloat on Security Now occasionally. A quick search shows that they devoted a whole episode to it in March 2012 https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-345.htm https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-359.htm Just one thing to note about the ISPs preference for speedtest.net. My ISP here in the UK use what is I think a co-located (rebadged) speedtest.net server in their data centres. I think that doing it that way means they are testing from their core network to me and can discount any wider internet issues outside of their control. They also get to see the results direct from the server so they do not need to "trust" my version of the results. I had a problem a few months back and they told me to test there instead of at dslr. However their license key for the speedtest server had expired and it gave me a nice error screen revealing a lot of the setup behind the curtains that revealed it was powered by speedtest. Regards Richard > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Dave Taht > wrote: > > but missed talking about it. Peaking at 600ms of delay at 100mbit, > shown at about 1:45. > > see vlog at: > > https://www.twit.tv/shows/the-tech-guy/episodes/1204?autostart=false > > and spends 5k a month on his internet access. > > -- > Dave Täht > worldwide bufferbloat report: > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/results/bufferbloat > And: > What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? > https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >