From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from nm7-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.95]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE09521FB23 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2015 13:10:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s2048; t=1444335000; bh=BJ1whaTCsI9H1JNjkYDvuLqhV9XqePgEStuXXWlxwZM=; h=Reply-To:Subject:References:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=KLvlUwHPr5CGc9i9PBIYQFvKS//TJKWxlV0CZzGzShXY80lkkOQp1zwqBomosS2/biAVYVtLucbJrsauwsa5nC9aGA/hU15pMfIJ6m/3tw75wgDdTsAfqQ6lhQ+5SpmF2mxIcaEVT2nx92BRrL+nExqt05ceLUK/vh/TpoqYWscfvW3cWRXkATC7THf3dSzIXmQ+8SG06H4KGJGDZaVkk3SAMdSX4CnrBec+UxEmdtZOP8qREj7dXKQ7p5LUDJJa/FKcL/jH9utU+B6YIG4ZJR6HotZvGxJFFNJ0fsZKtYE/+Uw1Dv4ke+7r2/BNeLxldl00VrHeQ4GQCp7gRC80SQ== Received: from [216.39.60.169] by nm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2015 20:10:00 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.240] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2015 20:10:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2015 20:10:00 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 649213.84393.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: XcZwoNYVM1nw4C5NfqtFWczMitEQ_jCPriwAoq9YOxyrJkW KWtIGusGmf9cptsRryNB45I3NeGB_D7zvHHeViRc158ultYP_5d_kWfJ0NbV pV07g9SSF.vSBv_U98UM0hktMCEgMrCCZ5KXmwTO682tiZOD9qbvXbYHFs0y rk2IzOgWTBMnr0wuy9.emKHhz_yuokQHsEq7aM7hgaRWMvy2apo0hruw3i2g .QlVBs9_Az5NrfNcRJWfesX.xduosUbpvxomn4JuPd2OPRVhA7wUu1UomjNk _JlAho9IW27I3OBmgWCCKxPngftLfo_MljvypUabLy3bLr8XUiR9p96o8L2b W1fMcXf.OJlka76tPU_XpBOGxr3XeXnjW4SL8go8f_paY_7mh_84EbYHQV.A Vyby.8Wg_pmGchU2y5YIJhWLWv_MhzBdPyL3O0I0BZlAVrLP8J5yTd7NdkRr nkpE1Rj8AEjo4gDamFJCxAx1ubMh9yFyyFowW2szl1aEfROldrQMuQ1FeLd9 Z7nNrmggX14y1AhO1_T2uzObXBdBqHAyJnyvG4jyFua0CGeBrqjFDeUUuHrJ 0vCxbiSs- X-Yahoo-SMTP: sltvjZWswBCRD.ElTuB1l9j6s9wRYPpuyTNWOE5oEg-- References: <561679A7.80400@rogers.com> <20151008144147.GB5171@thyrsus.com> <56168961.2080800@rogers.com> <13196.1444332832@sandelman.ca> To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net From: David Collier-Brown Message-ID: <5616CD96.1020607@rogers.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 16:09:58 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Bloat] ESR's comment popped up on slashdot X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: davecb@spamcop.net List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 20:10:24 -0000 [offtopic] And this kind of thing drives my paranoid friends *batty*. --dave I suspect none of them ever worked in a large enough organization that it had lots of inertia... which I've seen in a five-person team (;-)) On 08/10/15 03:36 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > The *only* report of interference with radars I have been able to find > is a vaguely worded complaint in a 2011 document, where 40 reports of > interference were found, 25 at one airport in Puerto Rico. > > The FCC has utterly failed to provide proof for it's argument, thus far. > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: >> David Collier-Brown wrote: >> > Based on that, it sounds like the issue is that you can buy a 5 GHz >> > device off the shelf, then hack the firmware to re-enable those >> > frequencies. And the FCC is proposing this action because people have >> > been doing exactly that and the FCC has received reports from the >> > airports of such interference on those frequencies. >> >> I too would like like know more about these reports. >> (would be funny if in fact it was screwed up *vendor* firmware?) >> >> -- >> ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ >> ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ >> ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain