From: <BeckW@telekom.de>
To: <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCP flavours - timestamps?
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:04:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <580BEA5E3B99744AB1F5BFF5E9A3C67D01708ED2A4@HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D7F4121.40307@freedesktop.org>
Jim Wrote:
> Back last summer, to my surprise, when I asked Van Jacobson about my
> traces, he said all the required proof was already present in my traces,
> since modern Linux (and I presume other) operating systems had time
> stamps in them (the TCP timestamps option).
>
> Here's the off the wall idea. The buffers we observe are often many
> times (orders of magnitude) larger than any rational RTT.
>
> So the question I have is whether there is some technique whereby
> monitoring the timestamps that may already be present in the traffic
> (and knowing what "sane" RTT's are) that we can start marking traffic in
> time prevent the worst effects of bloating buffers?
This reminds me of a related concept, using the TTL really as 'Time To Live' (in today's IP, it's more of a 'Remaining Hop Count). According to RfC 791, a router that buffers a packet by n seconds must decrease its TTL by n. I doubt that many routers implement this properly.
Wolfgang
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Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-15 10:36 Jim Gettys
2011-03-15 14:40 ` Jim Gettys
2011-03-15 16:47 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 17:59 ` Don Marti
2011-03-15 18:14 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 18:31 ` John W. Linville
2011-03-15 19:40 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 19:59 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 20:51 ` John W. Linville
2011-03-15 21:31 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-16 0:32 ` John W. Linville
2011-03-16 1:02 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 22:01 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 22:19 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-15 22:26 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 22:36 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 22:40 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 22:42 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-15 22:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-15 23:02 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 23:12 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 23:25 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 23:33 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 23:46 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-16 0:49 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16 1:02 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-16 1:28 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16 1:59 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-16 2:23 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16 22:22 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCPflavours " Richard Scheffenegger
2011-03-16 23:38 ` richard
2011-03-16 23:50 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-17 12:05 ` Fred Baker
2011-03-17 12:18 ` Fred Baker
2011-03-17 17:27 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-18 18:30 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-03-18 18:49 ` Fred Baker
2011-03-20 11:40 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-20 22:18 ` david
2011-03-20 22:45 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-20 22:50 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-20 22:55 ` grenville armitage
2011-03-20 23:04 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-20 23:14 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-20 23:19 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-20 23:23 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-20 22:58 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-21 1:28 ` david
2011-03-21 1:56 ` Wesley Eddy
2011-03-18 18:27 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion ofTCPflavours " Richard Scheffenegger
2011-03-16 22:07 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCPflavours " Richard Scheffenegger
2011-03-17 0:10 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16 0:47 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCP flavours " John W. Linville
2011-03-16 20:07 ` Jim Gettys
2011-03-17 2:26 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-17 18:22 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-17 21:50 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-17 22:20 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-17 22:56 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-18 1:36 ` Justin McCann
2011-03-18 5:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-15 16:34 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 18:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-16 5:41 ` Fred Baker
2011-03-16 6:26 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16 8:55 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCPflavours " Richard Scheffenegger
2011-03-16 9:04 ` BeckW [this message]
2011-03-16 22:48 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCP flavours " Fred Baker
2011-03-16 23:23 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-17 8:34 ` BeckW
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