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From: Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] the future of tcp - train wreck or evolution?
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 07:48:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <580DF947-1160-405C-9019-0A6CD8FC49A3@ifi.uio.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw63BdFKtgsJ+qLXTRaOqpn6b7RzP+cZu8fXAZACW8ih-w@mail.gmail.com>

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… but I’m excited about slide 15 !

"Heat, CO2, and radioactive waste are becoming measurable by-products of TCP inefficiency
Fix TCP => Save the World!”

People don’t yet focus enough on this - and it’s not only relevant in a data center context. See also:

Michael Welzl: "Not a Trade-Off: On the Wi-Fi Energy Efficiency of Effective Internet Congestion Control", IEEE/IFIP WONS 2022, virtual, 30 March - 1 April 2022.
Preprint: https://folk.universitetetioslo.no/michawe/research/publications/wons2022_authors_version.pdf <https://folk.universitetetioslo.no/michawe/research/publications/wons2022_authors_version.pdf>

A couple of IETFs ago, I did sign up to present something along these lines at an ICCRG meeting, but I asked late and got squeezed into an “if time permits” slot; some day in the future I’ll ask for a “proper slot” to elaborate on this.

Cheers,
Michael



> On Jun 16, 2022, at 4:35 AM, Dave Taht via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> as seen in 2008.
> 
> https://slideplayer.com/slide/5747321/
> 
> Regrettably all the answers on slide 13 are elided.
> 
> 
> -- 
> FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/
> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-16  5:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-16  2:35 Dave Taht
2022-06-16  5:48 ` Michael Welzl [this message]
2022-06-16  7:22   ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-06-16  7:27     ` Michael Welzl
2022-06-16 16:39   ` Dave Taht
2022-06-16 20:23     ` Michael Welzl

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