From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x82b.google.com (mail-qt1-x82b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB7493B2A4 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 08:40:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt1-x82b.google.com with SMTP id v22so3225352qtx.8 for ; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 05:40:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=Jx+rgUmXTe7gcFI2Vd2yxIyMv1/Y74lHmExocnL+5dk=; b=YyC1iwWCl8dKLCUKhobkwX7++iP0F0FgZf8DvJhoVWkylmQcHeFjmgaApsyhdGRZbX agMyuQL5gBMo2XONS9RI/D7dvd+wp5yQgwNbWpPCmAzh1fp6jdhxSoFYelSNsQ3oeOko D+kSpZqzQUZ8vu86huLz8vq7S7YrpOUdYeDGwgj9AQ8IrFMw7vjNnpnQAYAF657iOH5Q hBYP9vCWVxYEON0WMoma8ptEXqej0sOJdBa+ILglTO7UIUew4XrKUyrE1JJR8fuEEHej vrAo8Krpx/birJftsg20YtJo8jveiRA4OtExQKFa6M1Jnl/1GTdD/Ied1JFaQhi5bJby FY1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=Jx+rgUmXTe7gcFI2Vd2yxIyMv1/Y74lHmExocnL+5dk=; b=O9lUtXPb8pgmh6rFClgOW6q6LC4K6UBZjQCjBEbmVag9LpT1bYRAunoaqJS4zIEF0p 3MmdPosdicuFWj8gNGzubCKPbO2l8aDNnETcFumQE1fmJCjrLU2QMvhzZXoBKRQ9DxG5 ql/gVPIdwJ5g5pvVQmbmVvAxQ6M9ZidT7qNp7otH5pVXAB9oL13exMsP4ptsybOpSPk+ G3I4ZMwuT1mOFiwJTWSK5tmnBvOel/bvp49qCxg4WqWMrLIxpxYn4MdxHyYCO5RE8feJ 2340Ik6MZIgV1ZxreKpcOciiyrCoSS1rsR+qIR6m3YGTTqFtr5iSAHv4pwGBwFcWm6qp ESAg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5322+sIem1eWLqyrSJqte3Edjwz0j7snLAMgTpJJViv5rlUtEUGt yytyaxNa+/j+uJnUFDDFZUyPLopJrIqisuEj X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxUgc0dbJUOhy2TRtZsCacKTt7Www877hO5QUozba5LAzgBhfQQUVxwR3lH0aXkPGa2QXkH7Q== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:5c4b:: with SMTP id j11mr20986282qtj.495.1638538823261; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 05:40:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from richs-mbp-pro.lan ([198.55.239.186]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o1sm2285538qtw.1.2021.12.03.05.40.22 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Dec 2021 05:40:23 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Brown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 08:40:22 -0500 References: To: bloat In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <5F0C4636-DD20-407F-9775-1FADE533DFA7@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Subject: Re: [Bloat] tp-link request for SQM X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 13:40:24 -0000 > On Dec 3, 2021, at 7:00 AM, Dave T=C3=A4ht wrote: >=20 > tp-link, is, so far as I know, the last major home router vendor NOT > shipping a SQM system. Perhaps this could be modded up with someones > with accounts? >=20 > https://community.tp-link.com/us/home/forum/topic/511156 Wait... what? Other vendors are providing SQM now? Cool! How should we change the text on = https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/What_can_I_do_about_Buffer= bloat/ that says: > =E2=80=A2 Install an off-the-shelf router with SQM: Several commercial = router vendors have a clue. Here is a list of those we have found: >=20 > =E2=80=A2 IQrouter provides a good setup wizard for configuring = SQM, and automatically tunes its settings. IQrouter v3 is good to about = 350 mbps. (Version 2 was good for 200-250 mbps.) > =E2=80=A2 Ubiquiti gear has fq_codel settings. People say its = EdgeRouter will handle over 400 mbps. > =E2=80=A2 The eero mesh routers list SQM as a feature. Their = third generation devices support SQM at speeds up to a gigabit/second as = of November 2021. > =E2=80=A2 Many other mesh router vendors claim to solve = bufferbloat. Check their spec=E2=80=99s or ask them about latency. > =E2=80=A2 Untangle NG Firewall has fq_codel settings. > =E2=80=A2 ipfire.org has fq_codel settings. > =E2=80=A2 If you=E2=80=99re a Comcast/Xfinity customer, see if = you can get the XB6 / CGM4140COM cable modem that has PIE enabled.=20 > Read p13 of Improving Latency with Active Queue = Management (AQM) During COVID-19. for details. Thanks.=