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From: Kenneth Porter <shiva@sewingwitch.com>
To: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] this explains speedtest stuff
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 08:52:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a5e8533-bce0-5570-b3e9-922a00f21bbe@sewingwitch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw50wG73rLr5noBxPJ+OqP45yOjLgE5qG=T8VuNZeLQnuQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/25/2020 8:32 AM, Dave Taht wrote:
> It would be a useful test for an intrepid windows administrator to
> actually enable ecn fully and see what breaks in their
> vpn, smb, and rdp implementations, and across their remote workforce,
> and observe any difference in QoE. I have long
> tried to get one drunk enough to deploy ecn across their windows
> infrastructure without any success.

I can easily do it for myself, now that I know where that setting hides. 
Is there reason to make others do it or is it sufficient that I be the 
only guinea pig here?


> since (I think?) the proposed vpn traffic is client -> server (?) not,
> clients -> router -> server, each individual using this link
> over the vpn will tend to get their own queue, and a big upload or
> download through their openvpn will tend to "do them in",
> because openvpn has lousy queue management internally... and (when
> last I looked), windows itself had not a lot of backpressure when
> dealing with that device.

I'm using openvpn to avoid exposing raw RDP servers to the Internet. I 
still don't trust MS enough to allow a Windows box directly connected to 
the Internet. So it's Win10(@home) -> openvpn(client on Win10 @home) 
->openvpn(Linux router @office)->Win10(@office). I think another user 
may use RDP's file transfer capabilities, but I personally use a 
separate ssh (scp) connection for that. I have no problem with command 
lines.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-04-25 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-23 19:38 Dave Taht
2020-04-23 20:00 ` Jonathan Foulkes
2020-04-23 20:15   ` Sergey Fedorov
2020-04-23 20:27     ` Dave Taht
2020-04-24  1:03       ` Sergey Fedorov
2020-04-24  0:44 ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-24  0:47   ` Jonathan Morton
2020-04-24  1:16     ` Kenneth Porter
     [not found]     ` <6F1F3C646A7DFD2CC8C9E79E@172.27.17.193>
2020-04-24  1:20       ` Dave Taht
2020-04-24  5:15         ` Matt Taggart
2020-04-24 14:40         ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-24 14:52           ` Sebastian Moeller
2020-04-24 14:56           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
     [not found]           ` <mailman.56.1587740202.24343.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2020-04-24 15:22             ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-24 16:22         ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-24 18:43           ` Jonathan Morton
2020-04-25  1:16             ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-25  8:43               ` Jonathan Morton
2020-04-25 13:49                 ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-25 14:00                   ` Jonathan Morton
2020-04-25 14:14                     ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-25 14:19                       ` Jonathan Morton
2020-04-25 15:31                         ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-25 15:33                           ` Dave Taht
2020-04-25 15:32                         ` Dave Taht
2020-04-25 15:43                           ` Dave Taht
2020-04-25 15:59                             ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-25 16:06                               ` Dave Taht
2020-04-25 16:22                               ` Sebastian Moeller
2020-04-26 10:59                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-04-25 15:52                           ` Kenneth Porter [this message]
2020-04-25 15:55                             ` Dave Taht
2020-04-25 16:18                               ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-25 15:38                         ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-25 17:22                     ` Y
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.73.1587835496.24343.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2020-04-25 17:37                       ` Jonathan Morton
2020-04-25 18:19                         ` Dave Taht
2020-04-25 20:49                           ` Kenneth Porter
     [not found]                           ` <787FB38B9372372F376BB072@172.27.17.193>
2020-04-25 20:55                             ` Dave Taht
     [not found]                 ` <3D2F4A70BAB1774D1EFDC641@172.27.17.193>
2020-04-25 16:00                   ` Dave Taht
2020-04-25 16:17                     ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-26 10:51                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-04-24 16:25         ` Kenneth Porter
     [not found]         ` <42D98FE80B7B9C1102C47579@172.27.17.193>
2020-04-24 16:32           ` Dave Taht
2020-04-24 16:39             ` Dave Taht
2020-04-24 17:42             ` Kenneth Porter

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