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Reed" Organization: Index Exchange Message-ID: <5b109522-6b11-8e6f-4b14-fcf1e8a8892d@indexexchange.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 12:00:10 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------10B3E015F603FDCEA998531A" Content-Language: en-US X-Originating-IP: [99.240.238.19] X-ClientProxiedBy: YTOPR0101CA0052.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10b6:b00:14::29) To YQXPR01MB3925.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10b6:c00:4e::18) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-MessageSentRepresentingType: 1 Received: from [192.168.7.123] (99.240.238.19) by YTOPR0101CA0052.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10b6:b00:14::29) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.3433.35 via Frontend Transport; Sun, 4 Oct 2020 16:00:10 +0000 X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 325bc27a-6f8b-4773-b2f1-08d8687e929d X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: QB1PR01MB2466: X-MS-Exchange-Transport-Forked: True X-Microsoft-Antispam-PRVS: X-MS-Oob-TLC-OOBClassifiers: OLM:9508; X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck: 1 X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0; X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: h0DiJrqOuBPTjbw/vcUaXe08EVitbDeK7G37u6AlhCg8fCR0Ih4Wp8bIRGSzRhOIpRNak952jMNPwqje5+hBTe/lH3dZqsPdRaZ7t7HbBwg96vbs6I86/MRMRg2YyPulYF27Bf6ov8+4cEZWNMjoBjVFhc0r7GVjDvTUCo5yyk7o+CqgAe67onvvMD5jAMLEE5tXUawn2uKszB8cVk6a9+IzRKq/JTSBlRGhu7cQyXwSKJwThjrXF4W/fSypCXIl6cEEYic+PKl98vFIJwuCF1FTY3/3U98iqrYGrVVrCJAXx1rtaMlTHh69ClNp9PBHnof5qiGoRl2WGfzbmHgBPggGvD0wOr0eWKsOfaQLISC3A77oCQ0hR0HGVw1VwzsU X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:YQXPR01MB3925.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFS:(346002)(136003)(376002)(396003)(366004)(39840400004)(66556008)(36916002)(478600001)(66946007)(6486002)(52116002)(31696002)(66476007)(8936002)(31686004)(83380400001)(5660300002)(186003)(16526019)(110136005)(956004)(2616005)(3450700001)(26005)(86362001)(36756003)(8676002)(33964004)(316002)(2906002)(16576012)(43740500002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData: 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 X-OriginatorOrg: indexexchange.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 325bc27a-6f8b-4773-b2f1-08d8687e929d X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: YQXPR01MB3925.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2020 16:00:10.9061 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: b07c0690-22b8-4366-8d8d-7b845d088e18 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-MailboxType: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-UserPrincipalName: +I0qYr3dDbYQ8CjngRhSggNhY/u6HrSf+RJnjJuurRTbQuDxiuLb8CpnnBuY6KfnaNL6BWLDYaE29WQ7/iHACjH265MznAJDzxWefmwSUBppxdpHLA5lgeEnvVLeRusB X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: QB1PR01MB2466 Subject: [Bloat] Dumb question time 2: setting qdisc in NetworkManager X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2020 16:00:12 -0000 --------------10B3E015F603FDCEA998531A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Way back in 2018, David P. Reed asked the NetworkManager list about setting= qdisc options, but to this day, NW does not document qdisc, and still rese= ts my machine back to fq_codel. I normally don't care, as I'm behind a de-bloated WRT 54, and now a shiny n= ew IQrouter, but I'm writing an article and want to have a recommendation f= or not-terribly technical people that applies to ubuntu and fedora/centos, = the supportable Linux distros at work. Did we ever hear back from the Gnome folks? Failing that, Mr Reed, could you post the script you used in /etc/NetworkMa= nager/dispatcher.d ? --dave There's too many Dave's in this group (:-)) I think I'm dave[3] -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. 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Way back in 2018, David P. Reed asked the NetworkManager list about sett= ing qdisc options, but to this day, NW does not document qdisc, and still r= esets my machine back to fq_codel.

I normally don't care, as I'm behind a de-bloated WRT 54, and now a s= hiny new IQrouter, but I'm writing an article and want to have a recomm= endation for not-terribly technical people that applies to ubuntu and fedor= a/centos, the supportable Linux distros at work.

Did we ever hear back from the Gnome folks?

Failing that, Mr Reed, could you post the script you used in /etc/Networ= kManager/dispatcher.d ?

--dave

There's too many Dave's in this group (:-))
I think I'm dave[3] 

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System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest
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