From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd2b.google.com (mail-io1-xd2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F5793B29D for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2020 03:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-io1-xd2b.google.com with SMTP id c17so1523049ioc.4 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2020 00:49:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:autocrypt:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GyZiGcTw+2hWVNBnSbCLO8rriMzyDJMWs5pg0xxrkdU=; b=MzTS+KcB5lG4gs48lMTXkezt3bEdRToYTMdCwJR5Q67iIGg3Af/ARwPoOUfvWYowl0 kGgEJcmv4xzUcU1HPOL/kzvMf7zykuZEMNZaDYJhzpHwaMsh3a5x1LNjWFzzskvK3ZBy SaLewxVietHn32ajXWZoBkfWC02gvZ/ExIoaOnK5jsffZuE/djsxAQidrvclKwXKAoG5 F4dOS2UamOP2DL8ErBkhos5vQ669XbBXF47KzBkZiwB2/l8W3ebhr7E+nmvOHeQsBo8y kat8oxoEHpAS2oa8g5FcjQJx+TOsJj9jxcblvu5Dtn5dm31vQ99cnY/kmco+NSKfVtWj Kv6Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:autocrypt :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GyZiGcTw+2hWVNBnSbCLO8rriMzyDJMWs5pg0xxrkdU=; b=V4zh2qcGunZvZ2+LXfDr/05wFQ86N/0YWChWEbgqkN1pwXinXxdzQqK6lOrl8lnyxQ kWm21uikxzx80iOmrvdShb9dTWCD5VkSPrzm0e33mOQmn5j7OKHoni3prmV/D5NK8xDY tmI5Mn7YP/Ym1k7XdMplwHgc1twsUc4sIj0/Exriml2pm1qBznJhetAMpqAwvC1aT62t LJ41s7ZMRhNZjMeAfMICm9WGtJ+4cnKM9ayTr9ThgwFCrs+f34lVPW8s+ptRnIMWGCAh +JPs44vm6IQHlnjNCRe4FZinxjdY0FLVGJ07Yi7nJyUisnyxCS/qgK8FtmOhDLTlILJg ezvg== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ2Twnsx6vr+eoAsaBp5e7LK120vEAXRUkh1CMrrhUkTTmebxte/ gfLZJ7u7jovLPHOFS778ogA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vtJlbFhSBTpq0dSkEySmaT96ClgF3sYF3EJNBoqhPHDU1LHCHccUOckm60t8Lzi69pNrFH50g== X-Received: by 2002:a6b:b208:: with SMTP id b8mr1317419iof.10.1583311755826; Wed, 04 Mar 2020 00:49:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([184.63.248.245]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f22sm2888982iof.37.2020.03.04.00.49.09 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Mar 2020 00:49:15 -0800 (PST) To: Dave Taht , chromatix99@gmail.com References: Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net From: Taran Lynn Autocrypt: addr=taranlynn0@gmail.com; keydata= mQENBFtKU/gBCADcE4CFr/pjW5+6nW6uAtwe2vpQ/AS37f5tr/LyzjKxYag0/k/XvPi6MENp yESBxHnCDwEu214hK/kfoRrMTWN6Nph3q0cU5GKT+0aUobdyWNcMKbXCiQbdvWQmTQDDjwHx H9qyTbijNA39jDr7CaboGRsKk76vOXfpZrO63IO8Y6J0cvxHeJ4YXc+MxsazvvbKbBtFLx12 yUZwIihxaCyU+Vm7qGPzitv4zRd5h8U3AsdG6ZCWbMMvGUsFxDpW1Lh7v7YChaLRUQTEvIzd A9VmyCEe/MiTLIlBkB9qYGUB8+Z61LesKFApRYJAPDAt5MpdWpgPbH3UE0G7WgHpOqObABEB AAG0IVRhcmFuIEx5bm4gPHRhcmFubHlubjBAZ21haWwuY29tPokBVwQTAQgAQQIbAwULCQgH AgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAIZARYhBNW+Y7j3YNRo1kMbGGXicYkuqfgUBQJbS7CnBQkD w8OvAAoJEGXicYkuqfgUPC8IALrBa1Upe7sU2peAJxyMiE8hkQpI6OTcpmA4bHS/LR1F4DCF jPI3zgBzdOnd3YcAxLkio5QM7axsGu4+cwMLwI0W/7ExLxDp81EFYPC5y2oPbOj9BJ0aiqYc h8OY00Jq3U/+/vQNZm7ZgnWysBhBg7Xn4TdufmipTmOUVtL85sU0seUe7zMhtj7mgerNeHWj 13o6xc0HFYXAdwyzq8WeqatDdiJ7DpmvTXqICKCsgpH3rlhYRdhSXr9oD/iSIOubLgJXANrZ dkStWXko5WanoqAoe1gLWaw77ZTLMYWrb6qmEHxKJKxgt+wdMHjYEcVYX6ZyMKSCh4xV5KUH 7cwE9me5AQ0EW0pT+AEIAMuUNViQkY6t7F3JNuTQolbaUueLA5EoPPsGzSAxaRX2NbpYLHoU X/f/0VO1iRCv3111GAKnxyf36vnVQzyHOtJVw+NYdxNdOjFnQvID/C17dpGbdBGCzjwpIyKS ncAeLLGYlZE/yDWgv7XgsdyuBkiO5O1CJTjxynnxYraEgxcjaB+xih+AsN2dElgsDI1NVzG4 Huz/ryGkWHz77o+vG5SPHeqBEVZeR59bjR2jwoQ41S0u+qWSGEQDt0sE1eBeVBGLsttBnMLY 1NbnHBZoQb6Kg2mW8qGbziRqorZ01f0BYgc/fAnMKPr/bQzq/JSml7kG1uMzRk4hFtsvn1lh qCMAEQEAAYkBPAQYAQgAJgIbDBYhBNW+Y7j3YNRo1kMbGGXicYkuqfgUBQJbS7C9BQkDw8PF AAoJEGXicYkuqfgUYMgIAIbz0n5DVrUimnOkKYo4eyU7/3zWh2nFVyD/s+jgZ4uD9oMTo5QD 2xtm3dkRraMbfcgdJhl0p/ZOrhvj9BpvnLhUJDF9Pqg4toBLLZaZYF46sllpgfSe2tVCceGg vMse9Nx84rx5Bas8RM8oiIwoHJNFOPjJlovXuGS9LA7A6fMvf9e2ug6WitWBHvQ0P5MqdrPe P+ymwV1m+SRiGEyAW9Y1DUvtf5JKtoTa6LfyswbO282sH0PiD7pldtgGSMZHOcCkLdKsnGlR 7wEBgOj7WlDrvMK37o+MQHtbxxptgV/u8uJ2GFDqc+WnwLmGzn/xONHw+VlhFLIx3sA21h0S k6E= Message-ID: <5e63c126-2a9c-8ffb-e6b9-ca42acfd397d@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 00:49:00 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Bloat] pacing, applied differently than bbr X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2020 08:49:16 -0000 On 2/26/20 12:12 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > As for the actual content of the paper... umm.. code is where? The code can be found on out site here https://lambda-11235.github.io/control_theo_network/projects/. Note hat the code there is the implementation used in the paper. We have since made significant changes, but will wait to publish the code until we publish our results. On 2/26/20 1:00 PM, Jonathan Morton wrote: > Hmmm. I see some qualitative similarities to BBR behaviour, but the > algorithm doesn't seem to be very robust since it seems to improve a > lot when given approximate a-priori information via cap and collar > settings. Current work is focused on improving robustness in this area, and some of our recent work has already seen some improvements. On 2/26/20 1:00 PM, Jonathan Morton wrote: > How does it treat ECN information, or does it set itself Not-ECT? The algorithm currently only uses delay based feedback. It does not use loss or ECN information.