From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp64.ord1d.emailsrvr.com (smtp64.ord1d.emailsrvr.com [184.106.54.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 321CA3BA8E for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2018 11:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp9.relay.ord1d.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp9.relay.ord1d.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DF244C036C; Tue, 5 Jun 2018 11:10:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Auth-ID: jf@jonathanfoulkes.com Received: by smtp9.relay.ord1d.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: jf-AT-jonathanfoulkes.com) with ESMTPSA id A87E6C0387; Tue, 5 Jun 2018 11:10:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender-Id: jf@jonathanfoulkes.com Received: from jonathans-mbp.lan (h234.85.184.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net [173.184.85.234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:25 (trex/5.7.12); Tue, 05 Jun 2018 11:10:13 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) From: Jonathan Foulkes In-Reply-To: <3F65061F-4F05-4F3F-8A43-FFCC1D27F585@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 11:10:12 -0400 Cc: bloat Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <61E48C91-AEF9-4FF4-9F83-45EC7148EC54@jonathanfoulkes.com> References: <152717340941.28154.812883711295847116.malone@soybean.canonical.com> <4f67f9b3-05a1-8d15-0aee-dfe8ea730d7c@gmail.com> <73c25a21-0ace-b5ee-090e-d06fb3b8dc60@kit.edu> <3F65061F-4F05-4F3F-8A43-FFCC1D27F585@gmail.com> To: Jonathan Morton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Bug 1436945] Re: devel: consider fq_codel as the default qdisc for networking X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2018 15:10:14 -0000 Jonathan, in the past the recommendation was for NOECN on egress if = capacity <4Mbps. Is that still the case in light of this? Thanks, Jonathan Foulkes > On Jun 4, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Jonathan Morton = wrote: >=20 >> On 4 Jun, 2018, at 9:22 pm, Jonas M=C3=A5rtensson = wrote: >>=20 >> Speaking about systemd defaults, they just enabled ecn for outgoing = connections: >=20 > That is also good news. With Apple *and* Ubuntu using it by default, = we should finally get critical mass of ECN traffic and any remaining = blackholes fixed, making it easy for everyone else to justify turning it = on as well. >=20 > - Jonathan Morton >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat