From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AA733CB37 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2024 13:00:23 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1733335221; x=1733940021; i=moeller0@gmx.de; bh=MC/fkPPKaloeF3gLU16jLTlyTkGhWGuBuBatbqIz7ZU=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:cc: content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id: mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=XHMtXWlclpfcfJ6m4YAZbC58zCbRL1crrLxMKO1nnx+ZTGiaJ2W2QsKNSjQe8+nS lk3RGSeCN89yt/54l4wCoIRwWx/f69Yen8YQTza6v7aHHcq+5zMX2muQcycfSQd3+ /Wz4SpuVWi+7Z+XCBmGBB1cMIgtHawNLF/RiaJXQqKKE9IcA8GSomqlQRs5l5CLTd xwpuEIQph8OLttvKHJBfyfAqDjKSdFgvy8X0vSW/6/1GLVLhrYVV9ikJz4x3yo8IQ NcvjlNrKEUvJ1vP+x3k0u8v3Hg3lXBtWY/yTrvFtRMlIakzRkHGndkRSxaSlGA+T/ w0I2FY6iIThFuSm1kg== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([80.187.113.56]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N0oG5-1tXOFN3iwn-016o5t; Wed, 04 Dec 2024 19:00:21 +0100 Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2024 19:00:14 +0100 From: Sebastian Moeller To: Rich Brown , Rich Brown via Bloat User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <8E1D013F-BC13-4FFA-8986-2521FEB39A89@gmail.com> References: <8E1D013F-BC13-4FFA-8986-2521FEB39A89@gmail.com> Message-ID: <62A919E9-EAFD-434C-BF2B-302D9E5A50E0@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:14qt9oO6QLOeZ7TReGXlgsvX9wokMKXLP68v160ccYPHkaJSurk ehV8zOl//+D0agi0eJQ2YQP9m5iFX4qi5Y7M++pbl4Q7MyEjjQ/QHKKc2P8jtHkn6vAz8jf aTzKD521CB53PSvLvV1xRAXPRG0aaNqKpMtIRxE8coXJLkNd/bAHuvemi1tyuEOMoev1P6x 8VLevkOuDMjlAjzFc+nLA== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:JEwiMSCxVK4=;biRKKK8Lp5yY/SV/NyLPpO8IO1r BTmBe4gwNyl1KW6DCtSVAzszjVCJex4IQuicglZRc/WLAEx2YRf5Ods0IdYDr6CJFSntHQxAj 0qNvessbuXb+HAij8wBu6X531kyOzqnSwY0H6YC7wgbRR/zTo2ScakrFWZe/TVQp872xJ0jE9 gepMvoe7yZE2v9sSIDLFvoM4IbF55VcVzWCaoVfkyA7RJiIFVXXMWttkWuoPEsMNe92ZnnvAx nrEyn4yzlxuX0xVY90Yhqc3YglP3Uzb+QR/fzfTZKC/qEVdDvx/RjPnDA9fQ77y24thmmatLR 8eW/nvoMvbDHGLnhth69zZMkzmHOMxhQl1Wkj1vbpH4tTiO+Pjp2klBiJGewkZw/hOqPHdisW kgGFcCoJz9j4CCiMQ2Yigp+XxtduO8ReUKhDcceXVnJe1yTNoWiJxRgNKYAbphvMJ7IOE+tC6 ghNWFMvxfRr8pxdlYSOCGusLUHBSmKhIgTXzbk5CzhLlERipaq0q3LWxMCHPYjiLDbp6WM59I RIrH9Qkc9MC380gDPfBEQU6oqAKpm6McwEiWroXwdaGr32pwJzmyfVtXUxuCQaVLUNIVhkZDr J0F0MP1AucbSdLHuXOwPoB8hxKgO9Q9yqT0yAZkeuxu85rv/7MTxjSX82TZt09wlGSE+M50DM u379UTx15QFeu88ENFn7LyCkCsBMjflRdbQBX1Df0V2aMTRpQMzEG5Qm+Moic6Wz92c/Mscnw C4iXNzd0AkLwp/TLZ+ftq7AUDw5qaNjitONYbnFfjEYeMbhc90hh+b3uzUQ4J+1ZfIkhXCmlk t1xT6mwWsHyR86V5Y2644GuqrN+1SctgdM5V1Yjw5+0yHzrY3dSEpuj2lHqmGleG4d837HaCt +ex6+bxp3sPVN7vXESB92tU3wuRXUv63YkScN7px5GsbGavYMplW3PC9rypYkR9SLO9Uly5jR +OyTf7WGD7AIZ1Eyu8PvbwLy4vCIeUgDnuKu2hqxt9Ofq6EzHMDdpiq3zZ9IS8AdYfq5Di+OG AY+z4DJ3HuhLNyvQzMFVwqHvaLfWdsmCXp/P/GaoUeJQI7GN3ssM0r1WPqwPdM+DItC1RWXa2 6OWzL3bFiq8Rw/5nm3OtN0vJwBLZN2 Subject: Re: [Bloat] Updates to bufferbloat.net site X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2024 18:00:23 -0000 Hi Rich, On 4 December 2024 17:16:39 CET, Rich Brown via Bloat wrote: >I have made some tweaks to the bufferbloat=2Enet site: > >- Added OpenWrt One to the list of off-the-shelf routers=2E (I ordered mi= ne today from AliExpress - it's due 19 Dec) > [SM] Ordered One as well=2E=2E=2E that said, this is a decent AP package, = but will likely not be a general all-in-one router (lack of a modem is like= ly fine, lack of switch ports less so), especially given the price=2E=2E=2E https://www=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet/projects/bloat/wiki/What_can_I_do_about_B= ufferbloat/ > >- Added Raspberry Pi4 to the "custom firmware" section > - ibid > >- Added/extended the Bufferbloat FAQs page=20 > https://www=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet/projects/bloat/wiki/Bufferbloat_FAQs/ > >- I would appreciate comments on the FAQ page - I fear I let my snark get= a little ahead of my good judgement [SM] I like it=2E=2E=2E I wonder though whether the "and still you ended u= p reading this" argument should only be made once, maybe as a response to m= ultiple questions? > >- Also note that the FAQ pages lists three good web-based speed/latency t= est pages: Speedtest=2Enet, Cloudflare, and Waveform and the Crusader teste= r application for Windows, Mac, Linux=2E [SM] Nitpick: "If the test shows latency below 15-25 msec, it means that bufferbloat is = under control=2E" Maybe clarify "latency increases under load below=2E=2E=2E" we occasional= ly see people with idle delays >> 25ms performing these tests=2E=2E=2E? > >Thanks! > >Rich >_______________________________________________ >Bloat mailing list >Bloat@lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet >https://lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet/listinfo/bloat --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E