From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from resdmta-c2p-547356.sys.comcast.net (resdmta-c2p-547356.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fd00:56::d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B4C53B29D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2024 22:26:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from resomta-c1p-023268.sys.comcast.net ([96.102.18.235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 256/256 bits) (Client did not present a certificate) by resdmta-c2p-547356.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPS id fATUrOBoG1GELfAa4r77sK; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 03:26:04 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcastmailservice.net; s=20211018a; t=1709090764; bh=0atZxmC5xFpbJBDyyHOPbOwe9/0F9fmP38XSzvTTez0=; h=Received:Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject: To:From:Content-Type:Xfinity-Spam-Result; b=c8XuQ0/MHK9keTmKxreq2vlhUk44SkeXZAOQT3MAP2/O8+6hI92R261Uu7qe9o9yA IKj7MX20coXHuI1h+gy8pKc0q3TBV7hNjerBqntAY6ROm07s8nTZOOh+g7ycbt7866 49mn7cWPs6rXBIHiJ4eEFpV+ja5sPYDvslFMtEv3fCrK6VqAuLYVFkrgCcEbn9A7gU lPo0NM53dbbLy4tJf5kU8x7BLHhUkzmYbcIqviM7tNTW78ECUx98hWnwldH2cHnTIe refcU5sk1fhM97mqEps96SNQ2xsu4uzv4/VgeBjmpTZp7Y0IJGQcGD/TKKG0DWCqzf lqNIbkGLrqkRQ== Received: from home.sewingwitch.com ([IPv6:2600:1700:a64d:600f:2e0:81ff:feb5:9463]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 256/256 bits) (Client did not present a certificate) by resomta-c1p-023268.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id fAXvr3vmaIHyjfAY0rVXyM; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 03:24:01 +0000 Received: from [10.96.7.39] ([10.96.7.39]) (authenticated bits=0) by home.sewingwitch.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 41S3NnVE012424 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2024 19:23:49 -0800 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 home.sewingwitch.com 41S3NnVE012424 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sewingwitch.com; s=default; t=1709090629; bh=0atZxmC5xFpbJBDyyHOPbOwe9/0F9fmP38XSzvTTez0=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=nmpsFh/4QIE5Oi68R/Z99dMzZzV90M5sj4lLWhf9zJnrqsKnRtyaIw48NaiXqxZNi /0+xp7iji8oBu5hCvBLZaMJmSpAlLfA/wFZgV1jwv6d8cep/9+eVb8aGcSdI/p64mb mmdnvJ0HE5lG/pbRdysU/XGSxNp0qLT2xdXf8GK4= Message-ID: <64523e7a-1ca0-4800-9f87-dbbf420056bd@sewingwitch.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 19:23:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <1142E628-CF2B-4EDC-B4FD-46832B6D5840@gmail.com> <855514eb-c402-4409-83b6-e0d682d0d94c@lackof.org> From: Kenneth Porter In-Reply-To: <855514eb-c402-4409-83b6-e0d682d0d94c@lackof.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.4.1 on 10.96.0.132 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfCrQBC0nGZl4zSpunwqg7SKdPy3/jDg87/YjDdiR2eI+X97vFizxbSaW4rOssQEgn5uUtsSPMID6cN2tjdQpJIpZyToCtkCfDathXGarnFFgjCT6NGUX GE3xlhGg0Nijxya0CxDPHIeSiwkjZK0u6OFmadqmUrGFmNq19njH1CCmvUxjz9QnpSLWwNgduU3BHIIoYzaj5gv4uZ0iBgN9fTcijas4NzYSizZXOQ8lhFGx VPE20hDSYrGIbLR6iwOwerHYYdDE/T3ANJEOq9/Wf5A= Subject: Re: [Bloat] mDNS X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 03:26:05 -0000 On 2/27/2024 6:31 PM, Matt Taggart via Bloat wrote: > Also... starting back in the old CeroWRT days I switched to using the > 172.16 rfc1918 ranges when I realized that nobody else uses them, and > that has been a good way to avoid collisions (but wouldn't work as an > openwrt default). A customer of my company uses 172.16 subnets at their various locations, so it was good that I used a /16 from 10/8 for ours when we need to VPN in to work on a customer machine. At home I use 172.16 subnets for the LAN side of my ISP CPEs with my own router in front of them. So my home LAN can be in a 10/8 subnet in spite of ATT's restriction. I reserve 192.168/16 for when I need to plug in some new piece of hardware that defaults to that address block.