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Subject: Re: [Bloat] Router ethernet devices do not connect to Internet
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Hi Ernesto,

> Well I'm using firmware version 3.10.18-1 and I have used the TFTP =
method to flash it for the first time then I've tried sysupgrade version =
also to see if it will fix the reboot problem but to no avail and so I =
just use the TFTP method.
>=20
> Whenever I flash my router with a newer version I wait 10 minutes just =
to be safe and make sure everything is correct.
>=20
> Yes I followed the wiki guide on how to do everything correctly and =
still the problem persists.
>=20
> Is there something I have done wrong?

Hmmm=85 I don=92t see that you=92ve done anything wrong.  Just to =
confirm the symptoms:=20

- You can use TFTP to 192.1681.1 to flash the router.=20
- If you leave the Ethernet cable attached, your laptop/desktop doesn=92t =
receive a DHCP address after the  5-10 minute wait?
- At that same time, you can connect via Wi-Fi to the router?

If this is the case, I=92m going to have to look to others on the list =
for suggestions. I just jumped in with my short list because I had them =
in mind=85

Best regards,

Rich Brown=

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dwindows-1252"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Hi =
Ernesto,<div><br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"font-family:=
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font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Well I'm using firmware version =
3.10.18-1 and I have used the TFTP method to flash it for the first time =
then I've tried sysupgrade version also to see if it will fix the reboot =
problem but to no avail and so I just use the TFTP method.</div><div =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:=
 Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Whenever I flash my router with a newer =
version I wait 10 minutes just to be safe and make sure everything is =
correct.</div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Yes I =
followed the wiki guide on how to do everything correctly and still the =
problem persists.</div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Is =
there something I have done =
wrong?</div></blockquote></div><br></div><div>Hmmm=85 I don=92t see that =
you=92ve done anything wrong. &nbsp;Just to confirm the =
symptoms:&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>- You can use TFTP to =
192.1681.1 to flash the router.&nbsp;</div><div>- If you leave the =
Ethernet cable attached, your laptop/desktop doesn=92t receive a DHCP =
address after the &nbsp;5-10 minute wait?</div><div>- At that same time, =
you can connect via Wi-Fi to the router?</div><div><br></div><div>If =
this is the case, I=92m going to have to look to others on the list for =
suggestions.&nbsp;I just jumped in with my short list because I had them =
in mind=85</div><div><br></div><div>Best =
regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Rich Brown</div></body></html>=

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