From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=pass (Used From Domain Record) header.from=gmail.com policy.dmarc=quarantine Received: from mail-qk1-x735.google.com (mail-qk1-x735.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::735]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 356EE11FCE79 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2026 14:49:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-qk1-x735.google.com with SMTP id af79cd13be357-9158629a220so108375385a.1 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2026 05:49:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20251104; t=1781268597; x=1781873397; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:date:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9KTJgTkLIoQRY0QBGRwt4RngLrIm08IbOagXzFYV294=; b=dd97ShjIkQkzU7EUZ/Ompp6EOBKMEn3iYfa3xNCnrREjmEUkmbk+zgAmVwtOX5MGiG 4opX81NTimVo9Yw9n6wdtGrz0CjjDHjQgMN9Ukxz0Pr//2be8S8ueN0twnkSs1FsoE1x 87WIFiEbQG2GpdqY+BVKeb/RC+DA+Xrnpb+0cVOmT9i2+r292fHtiy60i8/vO0sCC1Oe XQJeSnbfX9BwHVoGMkLuBaaIhwMuvljt/4R9N1j75b/Cmt6PPHmiW1K8U80qlSeStnA0 Yd7kyIOnH/FdNOfPrIMfXlwePGKkx0Izqf9GvURNvUTYQKtNV8Lr1PJetGAjqO9KY/W+ zbFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20251104; t=1781268597; x=1781873397; h=to:date:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :from:x-gm-gg:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=9KTJgTkLIoQRY0QBGRwt4RngLrIm08IbOagXzFYV294=; b=espyS0ZBXJtH4DO4zzQGyQwtZabc6Be7spKdCj+FqqdPzuJXYH2+EtWHmYJ/E6OyS3 muixNB4SY4mieYJjWngnX15wo5wISTqEznNY7y/2+qKvO7aDGwM5CXxvhfNXBMe2ZZIF MqYrgET9o2j8vL1ucov2g4jXJwfR9NgiDo5HXRPHbFPOrOmBYGAQTw/BVvxuuZsWtlat CM18TLxcnQBs2cirJlgD4NngNosASnd8OPIqX9mjPRWYl91qIqEPiOXI0dE+7EflUllw Y38ZJHyXSm0ENrbJCrp8wuhOfLLveKIsgu4NTTd3Ix8NeAN96MUi9phjejYhPu+LdWnF lYcQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzNA/HePYL56hDP1vk3xqnvCf62+erLzeYGvkOsF9FtLoKWVyUB Khc+6e+f6k0HF6dj+1UA5Ov+BYoGzfV2Z10AwrN+vZWZ3VbgEa4SkIfPGB0yHgvI X-Gm-Gg: Acq92OFTIoflMZ3qZ1fgKXI1skdowFjT18R8SQWMdOrtOM5fEf63VC7oNaGqPpvKT2a RqbAQZOKbU0zbRQcXdTmpTMuW0Rv96RKLiEOCNgz56eWz/2AZiOyu+nnq018sh7liGGJdXLvd3b fJl/vHAmXVCmXilzlGWhOMMEXl+r2skv6hfDVAJsu3jM27ovXcZelTeOZOhG9jcs+u4zZAtY6Xy bn65oLB96F6Z+xmBGxPBPublrfDCl3LHSsN7rWu5nkYBuNHK9rnHin29qHJhnWUfyP5ePdp83yc wQzpzUR3+ZZtlfM32bYdfZQFQV8Hmgbl/nVmhtuz9SR5lPGzMQG9SznUvdaXltR1YMmxoMBDsZm Hlv7qiAcil4V+zenaz5v+q/rWMjjpq699PaFB30kcAMAuymrIal/MkzZAG0AGvNScJ7LAXKmGA1 lEnt9q1QprlSVhkVA1btO0p5LvosbEafFdzPsDnqNZYqytvIZl7MAzANpe4Ij9FhNfCKYlcQk0h 43Wwc+HaNFTUA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:3724:b0:916:16d0:c024 with SMTP id af79cd13be357-9161baf6cc8mr335578485a.17.1781268597419; Fri, 12 Jun 2026 05:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (cg-23-147-188-130.lymeaccess.net. [23.147.188.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id af79cd13be357-9161a04b472sm196530585a.37.2026.06.12.05.49.56 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Jun 2026 05:49:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Brown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3864.600.51.1.1\)) Message-Id: <67CC0F9C-0228-4A70-87C2-13C0E5E5FA32@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2026 08:49:46 -0400 To: Rich Brown via Bloat X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3864.600.51.1.1) Message-ID-Hash: 6ZWZZHYKVBK24V6JIOHOZGWLSGCYZ4FY X-Message-ID-Hash: 6ZWZZHYKVBK24V6JIOHOZGWLSGCYZ4FY X-MailFrom: richb.hanover@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Bloat] SQM becoming mainstream (finally) List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I regularly receive email alerts from alerts.google.com for = =E2=80=9Cbufferbloat=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Chigh ping time=E2=80=9D. My = inbox receives daily notes with links to Reddit articles asking, = =E2=80=9Ccould this really be bufferbloat?=E2=80=9D, and occasional = announcements of =E2=80=9Cthe BEST gaming router of 2025/2026/2027...=E2=80= =9D I saw an interesting review today [1]: I don=E2=80=99t put any = particular credence in their rankings of the various routers, but I = found it delightful that this was the first point in the entire article: * Ping spikes during gaming are usually caused by home network = congestion, not ISP speed, and a gaming router with quality of service = (QoS) or SQM directly fixes that Dave would be so pleased that Bufferbloat and SQM are finally entering = mainstream consciousness. [1] = https://www.analyticsinsight.net/gaming/best-gaming-routers-in-2026-for-lo= w-latency-and-high-speed-performance=