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From: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] one benefit of turning off shaping + fq_codel
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:47:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6C1479A8-43E8-4F89-BCEA-1D28CA3E8589@heistp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw7bPub0G7kAyrWEy+YQE5SGkAoOk49_QA-C_+MXa4a2gA@mail.gmail.com>

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> On Nov 13, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It turns out we are contributing to global warming.
> 
> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Routing-Switching/USG-temperature/m-p/2547046/highlight/true#M115060 <https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Routing-Switching/USG-temperature/m-p/2547046/highlight/true#M115060>

Would it be right to say that the biggest opportunity for reducing consumption is to avoid shaping, i.e. by adding BQL-like functionality to all classes of device drivers, and/or by deploying congestion control globally that avoids the need for it?

Other ideas: move queue management into hardware, power network equipment with renewables, or just use the Internet less. :)

Pete

(I noticed an audience member brought this up in Toke’s thesis defense)

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-23 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-13 16:54 Dave Taht
2018-11-14 17:09 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-11-15  0:56   ` David Lang
2018-11-15  3:44     ` Dave Taht
2018-11-23 11:47 ` Pete Heist [this message]
2018-11-23 16:26   ` Dave Taht
2018-11-23 16:43     ` Jonathan Morton
2018-11-23 16:48       ` Dave Taht
2018-11-23 17:16         ` Luca Muscariello
2018-11-23 17:27           ` Dave Taht
2018-11-23 17:32             ` Luca Muscariello
2018-11-25 21:14               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-11-26 12:52                 ` Pete Heist
2018-11-26 12:54                   ` Dave Taht
2018-11-26 13:30                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-11-26 13:26                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-11-24 11:49     ` Pete Heist
2018-12-05  0:25       ` David Lang
2018-11-27 18:14     ` Holland, Jake
2018-11-27 18:31       ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-11-27 19:09         ` Dave Taht
2018-11-27 22:07           ` Pete Heist
2018-11-27 22:33             ` Jonathan Morton
2018-11-27 22:36               ` Jonathan Morton
2018-11-28  7:23                 ` [Bloat] hardware diversions Dave Taht
2018-11-27 19:11         ` [Bloat] one benefit of turning off shaping + fq_codel Holland, Jake

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