From: Mario Hock <mario.hock@kit.edu>
To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Bug 1436945] Re: devel: consider fq_codel as the default qdisc for networking
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 10:55:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <71035d7b-7485-9c61-6548-04fd84ad26cd@kit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EED91560-BB9A-4E56-A768-D4820B940A7F@gmx.de>
Am 06.06.2018 um 10:15 schrieb Sebastian Moeller:
> Well, sending a packet incurs serialization delay for all queued up packets, so not sending a packet reduces the delay for all packets that are sent by exactly the serialization delay. If egress bandwidth is precious (so when it is congested and low in comparison with the amount of data that should be send) resorting to congestion signaling by dropping seems okay to me, as that immeiately frees up a "TX-slot" for another flow.
If the packet is dropped and the "TX-slot" is freed up, two things can
happen:
1. The next packet belongs to the same flow. In this case, a TCP flow
has no benefit because head-of-line-block occurs until the packet is
retransmitted. (This might be different for loss-tolerant
latency-sensitive UDP traffic, though.)
2. The next packet belongs to another flow. Obviously, this flow would
benefit. However, the question which flow should be served next should
be made by the scheduler, not by the dropper. (In the case of
scheduler/dropper combinations, such as fq_codel.)
Best, Mario Hock
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-06 8:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <152717340941.28154.812883711295847116.malone@soybean.canonical.com>
2018-05-24 15:38 ` [Bloat] Fwd: " Jan Ceuleers
2018-06-04 11:28 ` Bless, Roland (TM)
2018-06-04 13:16 ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-06-04 17:08 ` Dave Taht
2018-06-04 18:22 ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-06-04 21:36 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-05 15:10 ` [Bloat] " Jonathan Foulkes
2018-06-05 17:24 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-05 18:34 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-05 19:31 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-06 6:53 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-06 13:04 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-12 6:39 ` Dave Taht
2018-06-12 6:47 ` Dave Taht
2018-08-11 19:17 ` Dave Taht
2018-08-13 22:29 ` [Bloat] ecn redux Dave Taht
2018-06-06 7:44 ` [Bloat] [Bug 1436945] Re: devel: consider fq_codel as the default qdisc for networking Bless, Roland (TM)
2018-06-06 8:15 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-06 8:55 ` Mario Hock [this message]
2018-06-05 0:22 ` [Bloat] Fwd: " Michael Richardson
2018-06-05 6:21 ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-06-06 4:14 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-06-07 12:56 ` [Bloat] Fwd: [Bug 1436945] -> What other options/bufferbloat-advice ... ? Simon Iremonger (bufferbloat)
2018-06-04 23:00 ` [Bloat] Fwd: [Bug 1436945] Re: devel: consider fq_codel as the default qdisc for networking David Lang
2018-06-05 7:44 ` Mario Hock
2018-06-05 7:49 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-05 11:01 ` Mario Hock
2018-08-16 21:08 ` Dave Taht
[not found] <mailman.3.1527177601.17575.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2018-05-24 16:31 ` [Bloat] " Rich Brown
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