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From: Kenneth Porter <shiva@sewingwitch.com>
To: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] this explains speedtest stuff
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 08:59:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <72d4d4a4-ad29-cdd8-0bf5-2413c7c845de@sewingwitch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6Aurfy7AfwpXh-LW3AeQ9Tj2QC+cKUePvc8uMmpL=_OQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/25/2020 8:43 AM, Dave Taht wrote:
> and the last flaw of this test series is that ken took the dslreports
> "fiber" setting for the dslreports test as "The right thing". the
> "fiber" test is structured to stress test an asymmetric 1gbit/100mbit
> connection, not a shaped fiber connection running at 50mbit symmetric.
> The number of uploads is 4, downloads, 32.... it's totally ok to pick
> a given fiber/cable/whatever test, but it does help to apply the same
> characteristics to more of the tests you do, if you are trying to
> compare technologies.

I'd be happy to test with a different set of speed test settings. Would 
Corporate/Edu be a better choice?

In going through this exercise, I can imagine someone saying "where'd 
all the bandwidth I paid for go?" as we trade bandwidth for reduced 
latency. How do you sell that to end users? ISPs have trained people to 
think only in terms of raw speed (obviously that's best for an ISP's 
bottom line as they can upsell you the higher-priced package) and most 
people (outside of gamers) don't really grasp latency with the 
intuitiveness of speed. Maybe we need some Youtube videos showing end 
user experiences of the benefit of reduced latency.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-25 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-23 19:38 Dave Taht
2020-04-23 20:00 ` Jonathan Foulkes
2020-04-23 20:15   ` Sergey Fedorov
2020-04-23 20:27     ` Dave Taht
2020-04-24  1:03       ` Sergey Fedorov
2020-04-24  0:44 ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-24  0:47   ` Jonathan Morton
2020-04-24  1:16     ` Kenneth Porter
     [not found]     ` <6F1F3C646A7DFD2CC8C9E79E@172.27.17.193>
2020-04-24  1:20       ` Dave Taht
2020-04-24  5:15         ` Matt Taggart
2020-04-24 14:40         ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-24 14:52           ` Sebastian Moeller
2020-04-24 14:56           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
     [not found]           ` <mailman.56.1587740202.24343.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2020-04-24 15:22             ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-24 16:22         ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-24 18:43           ` Jonathan Morton
2020-04-25  1:16             ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-25  8:43               ` Jonathan Morton
2020-04-25 13:49                 ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-25 14:00                   ` Jonathan Morton
2020-04-25 14:14                     ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-25 14:19                       ` Jonathan Morton
2020-04-25 15:31                         ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-25 15:33                           ` Dave Taht
2020-04-25 15:32                         ` Dave Taht
2020-04-25 15:43                           ` Dave Taht
2020-04-25 15:59                             ` Kenneth Porter [this message]
2020-04-25 16:06                               ` Dave Taht
2020-04-25 16:22                               ` Sebastian Moeller
2020-04-26 10:59                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-04-25 15:52                           ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-25 15:55                             ` Dave Taht
2020-04-25 16:18                               ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-25 15:38                         ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-25 17:22                     ` Y
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.73.1587835496.24343.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2020-04-25 17:37                       ` Jonathan Morton
2020-04-25 18:19                         ` Dave Taht
2020-04-25 20:49                           ` Kenneth Porter
     [not found]                           ` <787FB38B9372372F376BB072@172.27.17.193>
2020-04-25 20:55                             ` Dave Taht
     [not found]                 ` <3D2F4A70BAB1774D1EFDC641@172.27.17.193>
2020-04-25 16:00                   ` Dave Taht
2020-04-25 16:17                     ` Kenneth Porter
2020-04-26 10:51                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-04-24 16:25         ` Kenneth Porter
     [not found]         ` <42D98FE80B7B9C1102C47579@172.27.17.193>
2020-04-24 16:32           ` Dave Taht
2020-04-24 16:39             ` Dave Taht
2020-04-24 17:42             ` Kenneth Porter

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