From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B02503CB5C for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2023 14:31:27 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1696530685; x=1697135485; i=moeller0@gmx.de; bh=5791+0yCmOxph9LuRjdv5PU1v036+s82YvZFQIavFbk=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=fO0x5Jnety+aFp3Jm3QUhzKzUmV2pRCyE4FoDi0DrnhAp6HKRlwdPWOxvPG3FRO7JhRlFufmqnO VSFEV/bESwapmTrCGAImsub7FdVzTlsL+ESfZgeqKFBk+t4apvj3AM/sHQEEAy3+mONFFblOGUXhY LNLj7WSRkJe6Y4leTc8FkpLS/QapVt3WHFZ8Sy7udiZZTNptECp8vt38OCZhH8BRFcHx9kbrvCCK4 qqeFBftTMSUVhWzCAvC9nSMLjLEjhbfxEj7l9ucTRCQUzD3Ifez3sUTA8H+TyvpQZRrVMQjd4M9Ij 8YAC1P2cFov6G+zILSM28DAPQyGGY+w9cH0A== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([77.1.212.4]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MJmKX-1r3ffA1Qj3-00K6zw; Thu, 05 Oct 2023 20:31:25 +0200 Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2023 20:31:22 +0200 From: Sebastian Moeller To: Dave Taht , Dave Taht via Bloat , bloat User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7405D858-4B1F-44A8-9E92-39A141FA64C3@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----A717NBSFFKMJTNS93Z2RMMAXC9010S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Budt3m5KYMxsnpbzwe8nI7WnT+0Q4IRM5cqEu6+sEUBGIflzjBH hEpwVuHWLwVi+c81yG3iM8bXdOgYofMCUU1ljKFYmLcmsnFO9lk0dg3cvpSvHshGJ2xGshX 3Moe2LgBS0gHfR5S3Cejg1CycRSp2NRVDVjZaEAUi0i8p6eAIXbUJLnGRuha6VDhtPzpqaw DbhhmtFBHOc4n86O6fxCg== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:aA08zHwLpQE=;GFHyFluwT6Colio39dpzgqHFVTM py9OkYkLHeg4zPASHyqt0hmQ2VmqnYAmDI2iX7EGYT4IYqXzXbJHPzEm8sMjC5x3OSRCNYstl JUCnNf4T4X5xBiSozDLS1k3UjdSbaEB0oPUXCbYcjp2oncrSTegNdN/RVO0rS1thueHq2cmin jUvtn2BEQ3gL5iUXSz/GKoX7yl2mm76c0W9ea6ZjDkU16PNihGcA6BxPpTbamd87BIbwIhy1M rYctRlbCya0Fro7GDKBNVrvZrHLQLS+PWqUIH65CK7OQxByOeyRJRim0TgssjK8SXLRBeQceP 24c08vO0iu/QoOoUerzE3VeSwl4Xg7pCwoyJN1wkw1vfGUa/mKi7pRglXhHlMgYleci1IN2FR YZ6qdsB7VlNINVIfoEnjd2nEZ0YIxtj003BOsH2d7lGBkvR/eLkwagEufMeW+bzYWKfTKb2DN mklqW2GBhIKr+XPdlH2DaI4tWlz5h7vV/zp9YiTtB+9Me2wi+TuTxBGtvXHQMpov+ni7Bt+EA qaK+Hb4uMjA6Ro1gLQ89514xp9XbcCI7aNlgDtaD4kIdMiuCYAfBVEZi7yckAck6qnu7gLTh1 M+eol03dF/3857Mz59XF0yXPCrhtttzwaZSfVgM45g8sDgY5uUQeDJ1sTWws4pT/MKnUyDhLq EDtHoIutOw1c47gGZ6vi+Ak5nHLCWE/OJdF+S2P5dtHoEtgUjkOxnx0jtHvmz8Qnd9lvohq6W KWspDJLS/JInVwBrkQgdvP+FDmsj7fQXCJ4ocXAmVvXVtToJVrKEkO2cITC6DWEdrYPqlpdKj MN28TaFMabgQbw5xD8B5AXE59UH4jBHkFYDFkw96wCbvvFtZEaVTl2btuZRVEHnf5KyEjZebN YvvXWSR4S0sRhjJ9TBDLfnlWgttQVrs8WVqDLBP1oiB7MdGwmr4uoRHgfDVSiVraDMXzyu2oj NAnly+r294yrUuHiQ21thyittSs= Subject: Re: [Bloat] 80Mbit streaming X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2023 18:31:28 -0000 ------A717NBSFFKMJTNS93Z2RMMAXC9010S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now finally, a use case that needs at least a ~100Mbps link=2E=2E=2E questi= on is, how much better than the competitors streaming this is going to look= ? On 5 October 2023 19:04:37 CEST, Dave Taht via Bloat wrote: >https://entertainment=2Eslashdot=2Eorg/story/23/10/05/154219/sonys-high-b= itrate-movie-service-is-now-available-on-ps5-and-ps4 > >--=20 >Oct 30: https://netdevconf=2Einfo/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof= =2Ehtml >Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos >_______________________________________________ >Bloat mailing list >Bloat@lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet >https://lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet/listinfo/bloat --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------A717NBSFFKMJTNS93Z2RMMAXC9010S Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On 5 October 2023 19:04:37 CEST, Dave Taht via = Bloat <bloat@lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet> wrote:
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