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* [Bloat] slashdotted
@ 2021-12-05 18:12 Dave Taht
  2021-12-07  6:43 ` Taraldsen Erik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2021-12-05 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bloat

I went to bed early yesterday, and woke up to slashdot.

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/12/05/0225227/comcast-reduced-working-latency-by-90-with-aqm-is-this-the-future

-- 
I tried to build a better future, a few times:
https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org

Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC

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* Re: [Bloat] slashdotted
  2021-12-05 18:12 [Bloat] slashdotted Dave Taht
@ 2021-12-07  6:43 ` Taraldsen Erik
  2021-12-07 14:40   ` Dave Taht
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Taraldsen Erik @ 2021-12-07  6:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht, bloat

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Thanks for that link! Written in a language an by a source (Comcast) which my company can relate to.  Posted it to our internal "facebook" main page.  Hope some in the management actually picks up on this now.


-Erik

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Fra: Bloat <bloat-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> på vegne av Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Sendt: søndag 5. desember 2021 19.12.52
Til: bloat
Emne: [Bloat] slashdotted

I went to bed early yesterday, and woke up to slashdot.

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/12/05/0225227/comcast-reduced-working-latency-by-90-with-aqm-is-this-the-future

--
I tried to build a better future, a few times:
https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org

Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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Bloat mailing list
Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat

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* Re: [Bloat] slashdotted
  2021-12-07  6:43 ` Taraldsen Erik
@ 2021-12-07 14:40   ` Dave Taht
  2021-12-08 17:05     ` David Collier-Brown
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2021-12-07 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Taraldsen Erik; +Cc: bloat

slashdot is a language understood by mgmt?

One poster went and checked his service (got an A on a bufferbloat
report and gave a kudos), another asked a good question about applying
sqm on top of that, the vast majority found something else to complain
about, and several (one especially) put the whole bufferbloat problem
down as a conspiracy by the ISPs to gauge and throttle users, even
when I presented the best data we had (on how much we improved wifi)
about it having been a theory failure.

Well, maybe it is a language understood by mgmt. You have to really
sort through this sort of chaff to find the wheat, This new tool holds
some promise: https://github.com/sylvia-ou/netcheck/issues/1

I hope those that deploy this stuff at scale look at macro-metrics,
like reduced support calls, more than user feedback.

The reddit conversation fared better:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/r7cfvg/comcast_delivers_90_working_latency_reductions_by/
as did linked in.

As it is, I put in a christmas wish for santa for a flame retardant suit.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 10:44 PM Taraldsen Erik
<erik.taraldsen@telenor.no> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that link! Written in a language an by a source (Comcast) which my company can relate to.  Posted it to our internal "facebook" main page.  Hope some in the management actually picks up on this now.
>
>
> -Erik
>
> ________________________________
> Fra: Bloat <bloat-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> på vegne av Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
> Sendt: søndag 5. desember 2021 19.12.52
> Til: bloat
> Emne: [Bloat] slashdotted
>
> I went to bed early yesterday, and woke up to slashdot.
>
> https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/12/05/0225227/comcast-reduced-working-latency-by-90-with-aqm-is-this-the-future
>
> --
> I tried to build a better future, a few times:
> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
>
> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat



-- 
I tried to build a better future, a few times:
https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org

Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC

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* Re: [Bloat] slashdotted
  2021-12-07 14:40   ` Dave Taht
@ 2021-12-08 17:05     ` David Collier-Brown
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: David Collier-Brown @ 2021-12-08 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bloat

Slashdot has a rating system, voted upon by engaged authors. The real 
trash is voted down to 0 or -1, and the dumb stuff floats around 1 or 2.

My CTO reads at level 4 or 5 (;-))

--dave

On 12/7/21 09:40, Dave Taht wrote:
> slashdot is a language understood by mgmt?
>
> One poster went and checked his service (got an A on a bufferbloat
> report and gave a kudos), another asked a good question about applying
> sqm on top of that, the vast majority found something else to complain
> about, and several (one especially) put the whole bufferbloat problem
> down as a conspiracy by the ISPs to gauge and throttle users, even
> when I presented the best data we had (on how much we improved wifi)
> about it having been a theory failure.
>
> Well, maybe it is a language understood by mgmt. You have to really
> sort through this sort of chaff to find the wheat, This new tool holds
> some promise: https://github.com/sylvia-ou/netcheck/issues/1
>
> I hope those that deploy this stuff at scale look at macro-metrics,
> like reduced support calls, more than user feedback.
>
> The reddit conversation fared better:
> https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/r7cfvg/comcast_delivers_90_working_latency_reductions_by/
> as did linked in.
>
> As it is, I put in a christmas wish for santa for a flame retardant suit.
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 10:44 PM Taraldsen Erik
> <erik.taraldsen@telenor.no> wrote:
>> Thanks for that link! Written in a language an by a source (Comcast) which my company can relate to.  Posted it to our internal "facebook" main page.  Hope some in the management actually picks up on this now.
>>
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Fra: Bloat <bloat-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> på vegne av Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
>> Sendt: søndag 5. desember 2021 19.12.52
>> Til: bloat
>> Emne: [Bloat] slashdotted
>>
>> I went to bed early yesterday, and woke up to slashdot.
>>
>> https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/12/05/0225227/comcast-reduced-working-latency-by-90-with-aqm-is-this-the-future
>>
>> --
>> I tried to build a better future, a few times:
>> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
>>
>> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bloat mailing list
>> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>
>
-- 
David Collier-Brown,         | Always do right. This will gratify
System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest
davecb@spamcop.net           |                      -- Mark Twain


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