* [Bloat] slashdotted @ 2021-12-05 18:12 Dave Taht 2021-12-07 6:43 ` Taraldsen Erik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Dave Taht @ 2021-12-05 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: bloat I went to bed early yesterday, and woke up to slashdot. https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/12/05/0225227/comcast-reduced-working-latency-by-90-with-aqm-is-this-the-future -- I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bloat] slashdotted 2021-12-05 18:12 [Bloat] slashdotted Dave Taht @ 2021-12-07 6:43 ` Taraldsen Erik 2021-12-07 14:40 ` Dave Taht 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Taraldsen Erik @ 2021-12-07 6:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Taht, bloat [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 904 bytes --] Thanks for that link! Written in a language an by a source (Comcast) which my company can relate to. Posted it to our internal "facebook" main page. Hope some in the management actually picks up on this now. -Erik ________________________________ Fra: Bloat <bloat-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> på vegne av Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> Sendt: søndag 5. desember 2021 19.12.52 Til: bloat Emne: [Bloat] slashdotted I went to bed early yesterday, and woke up to slashdot. https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/12/05/0225227/comcast-reduced-working-latency-by-90-with-aqm-is-this-the-future -- I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC _______________________________________________ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2203 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bloat] slashdotted 2021-12-07 6:43 ` Taraldsen Erik @ 2021-12-07 14:40 ` Dave Taht 2021-12-08 17:05 ` David Collier-Brown 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Dave Taht @ 2021-12-07 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Taraldsen Erik; +Cc: bloat slashdot is a language understood by mgmt? One poster went and checked his service (got an A on a bufferbloat report and gave a kudos), another asked a good question about applying sqm on top of that, the vast majority found something else to complain about, and several (one especially) put the whole bufferbloat problem down as a conspiracy by the ISPs to gauge and throttle users, even when I presented the best data we had (on how much we improved wifi) about it having been a theory failure. Well, maybe it is a language understood by mgmt. You have to really sort through this sort of chaff to find the wheat, This new tool holds some promise: https://github.com/sylvia-ou/netcheck/issues/1 I hope those that deploy this stuff at scale look at macro-metrics, like reduced support calls, more than user feedback. The reddit conversation fared better: https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/r7cfvg/comcast_delivers_90_working_latency_reductions_by/ as did linked in. As it is, I put in a christmas wish for santa for a flame retardant suit. On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 10:44 PM Taraldsen Erik <erik.taraldsen@telenor.no> wrote: > > Thanks for that link! Written in a language an by a source (Comcast) which my company can relate to. Posted it to our internal "facebook" main page. Hope some in the management actually picks up on this now. > > > -Erik > > ________________________________ > Fra: Bloat <bloat-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> på vegne av Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> > Sendt: søndag 5. desember 2021 19.12.52 > Til: bloat > Emne: [Bloat] slashdotted > > I went to bed early yesterday, and woke up to slashdot. > > https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/12/05/0225227/comcast-reduced-working-latency-by-90-with-aqm-is-this-the-future > > -- > I tried to build a better future, a few times: > https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org > > Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat -- I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bloat] slashdotted 2021-12-07 14:40 ` Dave Taht @ 2021-12-08 17:05 ` David Collier-Brown 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: David Collier-Brown @ 2021-12-08 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: bloat Slashdot has a rating system, voted upon by engaged authors. The real trash is voted down to 0 or -1, and the dumb stuff floats around 1 or 2. My CTO reads at level 4 or 5 (;-)) --dave On 12/7/21 09:40, Dave Taht wrote: > slashdot is a language understood by mgmt? > > One poster went and checked his service (got an A on a bufferbloat > report and gave a kudos), another asked a good question about applying > sqm on top of that, the vast majority found something else to complain > about, and several (one especially) put the whole bufferbloat problem > down as a conspiracy by the ISPs to gauge and throttle users, even > when I presented the best data we had (on how much we improved wifi) > about it having been a theory failure. > > Well, maybe it is a language understood by mgmt. You have to really > sort through this sort of chaff to find the wheat, This new tool holds > some promise: https://github.com/sylvia-ou/netcheck/issues/1 > > I hope those that deploy this stuff at scale look at macro-metrics, > like reduced support calls, more than user feedback. > > The reddit conversation fared better: > https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/r7cfvg/comcast_delivers_90_working_latency_reductions_by/ > as did linked in. > > As it is, I put in a christmas wish for santa for a flame retardant suit. > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 10:44 PM Taraldsen Erik > <erik.taraldsen@telenor.no> wrote: >> Thanks for that link! Written in a language an by a source (Comcast) which my company can relate to. Posted it to our internal "facebook" main page. Hope some in the management actually picks up on this now. >> >> >> -Erik >> >> ________________________________ >> Fra: Bloat <bloat-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> på vegne av Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> >> Sendt: søndag 5. desember 2021 19.12.52 >> Til: bloat >> Emne: [Bloat] slashdotted >> >> I went to bed early yesterday, and woke up to slashdot. >> >> https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/12/05/0225227/comcast-reduced-working-latency-by-90-with-aqm-is-this-the-future >> >> -- >> I tried to build a better future, a few times: >> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org >> >> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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