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From: Rui Paulo <rpaulo@apple.com>
To: Dave Taht <d@taht.net>
Cc: Brian Clapper <bmc@ardentex.com>, bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] ECN blocking router found
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:40:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7DD875AA-B91E-4F7A-85F4-61A6BA40567A@apple.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DA67BBE.9050606@taht.net>

On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Dave Taht wrote:

> In my travels this month I have been testing ECN enablement at homes and hotels everywhere I go.
> 
> Until today, I was able to have the following settings for ECN on my laptop everywhere I've been.
> 
> net.ipv4.tcp_ecn=1
> #net.ipv6.tcp_ecn=0
> net.ipv4.tcp_sack=1
> net.ipv4.tcp_dsack=1
> 
> However, I got to visit Brian Clapper [1] (friend/co-author of gnugol) tonight, and discovered that his fairly recently purchased router, a:
> 
> Etherfast Cable/DSL router Model BEFSR41
> Firmware version 2.0.0.4
> 
> flat out refused to pass ECN enabled connection attempts (returning an ICMP unreachable message)
> 
> He'd not noticed the problem because ubuntu 10.4 (at least, he also runs bsd) has tcp_ecn=2, which so far as I know "tries" a ECN enabled connect then falls back to not using it.
> 
> I'm bummed that such a recent router doesn't pass ECN, and will look into the problem further in the morning.
> 
> So I think we must use tcp_ecn = 1 to TEST to make sure ECN is being passed, and tcp_ecn=2 as the default recommendation.
> 
> Perhaps we can synthesize TCP streams to more directly test ECN capability in the future somehow as part of our testing tools. Are there any tools that synthesize TCP/ip we could use as a starting point?

Are you looking for something like this?
http://www.icir.org/tbit/index.html#ECN

Regards,
--
Rui Paulo




  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-15 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-14  4:44 Dave Taht
2011-04-14 14:43 ` Brian Clapper
2011-04-15 17:40 ` Rui Paulo [this message]
2011-04-23  7:43   ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-04-18 16:43 ` [Bloat] tcp_ecn=2 (server-mode ECN) Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-05-06 15:27   ` [Bloat] No ECN marking in IPv6 linux Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06 18:14     ` Dave Taht
2011-05-06 18:18       ` Jonathan Morton
2011-05-06 19:42         ` Dave Taht
2011-05-09  3:28           ` Dave Taht
2011-05-09 12:11         ` Lars Eggert
2011-05-16 15:09       ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2011-05-06 18:40     ` Matthew Ford

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