From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-02-iad.dyndns.com (mxout-075-iad.mailhop.org [216.146.32.75]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0A42E0182 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:27:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from scan-02-iad.mailhop.org (scan-02-iad.local [10.150.0.207]) by mail-02-iad.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80AD836B14 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:27:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 () X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 134.157.0.129 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mail-02-iad.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA1983605E for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hydrogene.pps.jussieu.fr (hydrogene.pps.jussieu.fr [134.157.168.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.4/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id p1ILRPkg083878 ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 22:27:38 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 165 Received: from lanthane.pps.jussieu.fr (lanthane.pps.jussieu.fr [134.157.168.57]) by hydrogene.pps.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 140A3C3334; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 22:27:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from jch by lanthane.pps.jussieu.fr with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PqXrH-000691-TM; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 22:27:23 +0100 From: Juliusz Chroboczek To: "Richard Scheffenegger" References: <20110216174627.GA20215@brevard.conman.org> <6F4E15F3B5314030A7C34DCC49395D8B@srichardlxp2> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 22:27:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Richard Scheffenegger's message of "Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:08:43 +0100") Message-ID: <7ir5b5av9g.fsf@lanthane.pps.jussieu.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 4D5EE43D.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4D5EE43D.000/134.157.168.1/hydrogene.pps.jussieu.fr/hydrogene.pps.jussieu.fr/ Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Bloat] Background Bufferbloat Detector X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:27:54 -0000 > Perhaps Simon Morris can be asked, if latency information can be > released together with the bandwidth data taken off the global > population of bittorrent clients... Having the µTorrent clients spy on their users and phone home with the information is not something the BTI managers are likely to feel good about, no matter how inncocuous the information. (Recall that their user-base tends to be paranoid, and rightly so, and that µTorrent is not open-source.) On a related note, please feel free to develop a prototype based on Transmission -- we've just finished merging µTP into the trunk: https://forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11130#p52594 --Juliusz