From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-out01.uio.no (mail-out01.uio.no [IPv6:2001:700:100:10::50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1F9D3B2A4 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 04:05:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-mx05.uio.no ([129.240.10.49]) by mail-out01.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1eKhGS-0001dB-5k; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 10:05:44 +0100 Received: from [160.80.82.29] by mail-mx05.uio.no with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) user michawe (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1eKhGR-000AtU-Kc; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 10:05:44 +0100 From: Michael Welzl Message-Id: <80E038A3-8B27-48C2-ABC3-CAB8706FF24D@ifi.uio.no> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B1FA6725-18B9-4476-97BF-439F051D990C" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 10:06:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: Cc: Mikael Abrahamsson , bloat To: Jonathan Morton References: <87shd18c51.fsf@toke.dk> <874lpe8y2f.fsf@toke.dk>

<57A2696A-F95C-4EEC-95B7-45EC4C2ADA55@pnsol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-UiO-SPF-Received: Received-SPF: neutral (mail-mx05.uio.no: 160.80.82.29 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of ifi.uio.no) client-ip=160.80.82.29; envelope-from=michawe@ifi.uio.no; helo=[160.80.82.29]; X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.0, required=5.0, autolearn=disabled, AWL=0.022, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, UIO_MAIL_IS_INTERNAL=-5, uiobl=NO, uiouri=NO) X-UiO-Scanned: 5F68F6938BB9FDE124A6E520194D9C45C2E51A41 Subject: Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat in high resolution + non-stationarity X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2017 09:05:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B1FA6725-18B9-4476-97BF-439F051D990C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I thought that some browsers already use various DSCPs when running = WebRTC? > On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Jonathan Morton = wrote: >=20 > Cake already supports treating CS1 as less-than-besteffort by default. = Adding more codepoints to that list is easy. >=20 > The trick is getting applications to actually use them. That's a = chicken-egg problem. >=20 > - Jonathan Morton > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --Apple-Mail=_B1FA6725-18B9-4476-97BF-439F051D990C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I thought that some browsers already use various DSCPs when running WebRTC?

On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:

Cake already supports treating CS1 as less-than-besteffort by default. Adding more codepoints to that list is easy.
The trick is getting applications to actually use them. That's a chicken-egg problem.
- Jonathan Morton

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