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From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: "Dave Täht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	"Dave Taht via Bloat" <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Cc: Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] An 8 years perspective on broadband in the usa - fcc data
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 17:46:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <81153147-A7F5-4AC7-A07A-320FBE66C94B@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw45UUP2kM284Kko8M=gkYRpE-CYqncd4zciqbzxfYjQ9A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dave,

> On Jun 19, 2022, at 17:32, Dave Taht via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> It's not clear if they are only measuring downloads in fig 4. ?
> 
> https://vaibhavbajpai.com/documents/papers/proceedings/fcc-networking-2022.pdf

indeed:

"The SamKnows probes measure a variety of broadband met- rics [22] over IPv4. The tests [22] covered in this paper include: multi-threaded download speed, UDP latency, UDP latency un- der load, and UDP packet loss. The tests connect to the closest measurement servers (based on round-trip time); measurement servers are hosted both off-net (outside of ISP boundary) and on-net (within ISP boundary). The off-net measurement points were hosted by Measurement Lab (M-Lab) [23] and changed to Level 3 Communications (CenturyLink) across ten cities in the US, while the on-net measurement targets are hosted by the ISPs themselves. The FCC publishes the raw data for each month [24], along with annual reports on major findings [25]. For controllability reasons, the annual MBA reports only cover measurements to the off-net locations, i.e., latency results might be inflated due to geographical distance. Thus, we also consider the on-net measurements in our analysis."

reference 22 points to https://www.fcc.gov/general/measuring-broadband-america-open-methodology
"Latency under load	Average round trip time for a series of regularly spaced UDP packets sent during downstream/upstream sustained tests"

this seems to imply that it would be mixed upload/download saturation?


But I agree that this is unclear... maybe Sam (Crawford) knows (pun intended), I do not have his email, but maybe he is on-list or someone else can relay that question?

Regards
	Sebastian


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  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-19 15:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-19 15:32 Dave Taht
2022-06-19 15:46 ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2022-06-19 19:39   ` [Bloat] [Rpm] " Matt Mathis
2022-06-19 19:51     ` Sam Crawford
2022-06-19 21:18       ` Sebastian Moeller

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