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From: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] broadband cost analysis
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 13:28:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8126.1649957307@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6nfD1pVAp1-CU+cTOh5KAXLe8sOyB0b7c_v=ROqu0uoQ@mail.gmail.com>

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Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
    > Looking at figure 7 (non-adoption rates by age group), nearly 30% of
    > those under 30 do not have fixed broadband.  From an informal survey of
    > those I know in that age range, they are primarily dependent on their
    > cell phones, cannot live at a fixed address for long enough to adopt

There is another group that live with roomates, and whose roomates control
the broadband, either for reasons of distrust, or because of who is competent
and who is not.

I think that those groups could also really benefit from reductions in
bufferbloat because they basically can't control what their roomates do.
The "Fair" in FQ is pretty important.

    > fixed broadband solutions, and go to coffee shops and libraries (and
    > the office) to get their connectivity. I am kind of curious as to the
    > trendline here - a cellphone is a must for this generation, quality
    > fixed internet merely a nice to have.

In Canada, rates are sufficiently high until you get to unlimited tier that
young people can not affort to stream video on their mobiles.  The kids you
see on the subway streaming continuously have rich parents with unlimited family plans.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-04-14 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-14 15:18 Dave Taht
2022-04-14 15:24 ` Dave Taht
2022-04-14 15:40   ` [Bloat] [Rpm] " Rich Brown
2022-04-15 14:48     ` Livingood, Jason
2022-04-15 15:28       ` Dave Taht
2022-04-14 17:28   ` Michael Richardson [this message]
     [not found] <mailman.7.1650038401.3528.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2022-04-19 12:53 ` [Bloat] " Rich Brown

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