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From: Ingemar Johansson S <ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com>
To: "Mirja Kühlewind" <mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch>
Cc: "cheshire@apple.com" <cheshire@apple.com>,
	"iccrg@irtf.org" <iccrg@irtf.org>,
	"Bob Briscoe \(bob.briscoe@bt.com\)" <bob.briscoe@bt.com>,
	"bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	"ietf@trammell.ch" <ietf@trammell.ch>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] ECN issues
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:02:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <81564C0D7D4D2A4B9A86C8C7404A13DA34B3230A@ESESSMB205.ericsson.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <04ED8D23-53C3-4F12-9647-3A07FFB43352@tik.ee.ethz.ch>

Hi

And thanks all for the info both on and off list. I believe that I have enough information. The main objective for me was to get an understanding how serious the issues that various boxes in the middle (e.g NATs/FWs ) mess with the ECN bits really is. Seems to me, based on the info I received thus far that this is becoming more and more an non-issue ?. 

Realized that I have seen the below paper before,  somehow I mixed it up with the older paper, have to blame it on my own teflon-memory ... Thanks for refreshing my memory

/Ingemar

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mirja Kühlewind [mailto:mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch]
> Sent: den 25 juni 2015 19:31
> To: Ingemar Johansson S
> Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net; iccrg@irtf.org; Bob Briscoe
> (bob.briscoe@bt.com); ietf@trammell.ch; Dave Taht
> (dave.taht@gmail.com); cheshire@apple.com
> Subject: Re: ECN issues
> 
> Hi Ingemar,
> 
> there is a newer paper we published last year (and gave a quick presentation
> at the last ICCRG meeting):
> 
> http://wan.poly.edu/pam2015/papers/4.pdf
> 
> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/slides/slides-92-iccrg-1.pdf
> 
> In the mean time we did more measurements using BitTorrent clients
> instead. The results are very similar. We might be able to quickly present
> some new results at the next session (if the session takes place and there is
> still space).
> 
> Does this help or are you looking for some specific information?
> 
> Mirja
> 
> 
> > Am 24.06.2015 um 13:34 schrieb Ingemar Johansson S
> <ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com>:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I wonder, is there any new data around that gives any ideas how large the
> issues with ECN really are ?.
> >
> > Issues that I am interested are ECN black holes and faulty remarking
> > of ECN fields
> >
> > The last one I have seen is this paper by Mirja, Brian and Sebastian
> > Neuner
> > http://www.ict-mplane.eu/sites/default/files/public/publications/311ec
> > ndeployment.pdf
> >
> > Is there any new data available ?.
> >
> > /Ingemar
> > =================================
> > Ingemar Johansson  M.Sc.
> > Senior Researcher
> >
> > Ericsson AB
> > Wireless Access Networks
> > Labratoriegränd 11
> > 971 28, Luleå, Sweden
> > Phone +46-1071 43042
> > SMS/MMS +46-73 078 3289
> > ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com
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> >
> > "No man has a good enough memory
> >   to be a successful liar"
> >     Abraham Lincoln
> > =================================


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-25 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-24 11:34 Ingemar Johansson S
2015-06-24 11:48 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
     [not found] ` <04ED8D23-53C3-4F12-9647-3A07FFB43352@tik.ee.ethz.ch>
2015-06-25 17:49   ` Dave Taht
2015-06-25 18:15     ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-25 18:52       ` David Lang
2015-06-26 11:05       ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2015-06-25 19:02   ` Ingemar Johansson S [this message]
2015-06-25 22:07     ` Jonathan Morton
     [not found]     ` <6D65AC6E-4AA1-4F8C-B758-D63EEC59A0E2@tik.ee.ethz.ch>
2015-07-19  8:21       ` [Bloat] [iccrg] " Scheffenegger, Richard

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