They are definitely both in the ballpark and correspond to other tests run from the router itself or my (wired) MacBook Pro. Cheers, Jonathan > On Jan 4, 2023, at 12:26 PM, Dave Taht via Rpm wrote: > > Please try the new, the shiny, the really wonderful test here: > https://speed.cloudflare.com/ > > I would really appreciate some independent verification of > measurements using this tool. In my brief experiments it appears - as > all the commercial tools to date - to dramatically understate the > bufferbloat, on my LTE, (and my starlink terminal is out being > hacked^H^H^H^H^H^Hworked on, so I can't measure that) > > My test of their test reports 223ms 5G latency under load , where > flent reports over 2seconds. See comparison attached. > > My guess is that this otherwise lovely new tool, like too many, > doesn't run for long enough. Admittedly, most web objects (their > target market) are small, and so long as they remain small and not > heavily pipelined this test is a very good start... but I'm pretty > sure cloudflare is used for bigger uploads and downloads than that. > There's no way to change the test to run longer either. > > I'd love to get some results from other networks (compared as usual to > flent), especially ones with cake on it. I'd love to know if they > measured more minimum rtts that can be obtained with fq_codel or cake, > correctly. > > Love Always, > The Grinch > > -- > This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: > https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz > Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > Rpm mailing list > Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm