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From: Matt Taggart <matt@lackof.org>
To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] mDNS
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 18:31:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <855514eb-c402-4409-83b6-e0d682d0d94c@lackof.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1142E628-CF2B-4EDC-B4FD-46832B6D5840@gmail.com>

On 2/27/24 10:52, Rich Brown via Bloat wrote:

> Exactly! There are no rules about what subnet range an ISP's gear will 
> assign to DHCP devices.
> 
> So (I believe) it becomes incumbent on OpenWrt to be smarter than the 
> ISP's router (shouldn't be hard) and pick a separate subnet for its LAN 
> & wireless interface. (Clearly, OpenWrt could default to 192.168.1.0/24, 
> but if that's that range the ISP is using, it could switch to 
> 192.168.2.0/24. I think that's all the flexibility that's required...)

Independent of which orgs are and are not allowed to use rfc1918 
addresses...

I sometimes find myself setting up openwrt routers behind other ISP 
provided NAT'ing routers that use rfc1918 addresses. Example: take a 
travel router on vacation and connect it to a network where I don't have 
any control over the ISP router, but I still want to get the advantages of:
* my ESSID with my password, all my family's wifi devices "just work"
* SQM for all the wifi/wired things I connect to it. Still could 
experience bufferbloat if there are things upstream of my router, but 
often that is zero devices, or just a "smart" tv.
* firewalling all my devices together and away from other suspect stuff

BTW the openwrt bcp38 packages have some automatic rfc1918 detection in 
order to make sure they don't setup a config that breaks in the case 
where WAN is rfc1918.

Also... starting back in the old CeroWRT days I switched to using the 
172.16 rfc1918 ranges when I realized that nobody else uses them, and 
that has been a good way to avoid collisions (but wouldn't work as an 
openwrt default).

-- 
Matt Taggart
matt@lackof.org


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-28  2:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.5.1709053201.5517.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2024-02-27 18:52 ` Rich Brown
2024-02-27 20:51   ` Aaron Wood
2024-02-28  0:43   ` Kenneth Porter
2024-02-28  1:09   ` Mark Andrews
2024-02-28  2:31   ` Matt Taggart [this message]
2024-02-28  3:23     ` Kenneth Porter
     [not found] <mailman.2341.1709082589.1074.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2024-02-28  2:04 ` Rich Brown
2024-02-28 11:40   ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2024-02-28 12:17     ` David Lang
2024-02-28 13:36       ` Rich Brown
2024-02-28 20:35       ` Juliusz Chroboczek

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