From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk0-x22e.google.com (mail-qk0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8358E3CB35 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 08:13:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qk0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id p13so18659414qke.4 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 05:13:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=osQlPSXN0dxSqkAtMa3eQ99IDOvRLsOrBjb1Yd4gmKc=; b=vEpXBZSRP1kIlx8MYVPpInbIEIqjgyr+8kmgnbJa/rK7BvlLsSMUdmaBIll6hLQCGD 4RSx+Z/bgV2RQnfmjxqQXdDB0ggzCdrbU8nmf0jLprWc5YqyagBhMjd2LNf03uPASREU +Zz5qp8IY/0COILKhtQPjpK4QTpGdilv0XIs02FbxCk7c7ijTCPcDV2Xoj3z7pqhVQmz je/JdmLTOWDUBn9N27hMulKm4OlbJ4EzkkA+nxtZoG51qqLDXiKDD5xGwMz/WUbpWjkl BCcmMwj2ISou9w+X23PZQZiiqNSVM/xscSwP67QNkMDo6g1h9ipRL1xKTVRl9roUIO+6 wRtg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to:message-id; bh=osQlPSXN0dxSqkAtMa3eQ99IDOvRLsOrBjb1Yd4gmKc=; b=A4gjlvVZeQyDPvIby35mA0IBfHiHzF20RjDQCIg1dzyrU5WspFUk1gdq3604WyKVeh 3krF4dPRwPIxzt3KQB4OCj7r6MZ0+K/10W0wER72Atzx8MCXpslc3+86fYFZiMPoiRdZ xN/lweVHbOrpd6nzIyN85L3b1t5SlhfqJKg0kCN/q+2xcqU6Oq/5NfJnxDxIftSCySYC VYGAjm55J75x2ssBVimiWVUm6mZDjr14CK8CHKA9z+HX/UXe/MhwUhWoC0c/MhUzJ/W7 s3Bqi1cgsQQrI0NS3lhfTmxMow4rTFsduBNLDGk7F0/Ep7shhy5fb9vnC2Sggie0KLRO xQDQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mKXAPyr/GRmbxiOQcIYWpHcWdf2xnSPnxTsCKHrtIG41ZoyoQcM jChFe1jvRGxU3TRSCo5iDKFj7kV+ X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBotjKqLGNmivbY8OiKbpjHhrC02NV+h0+tmCy5iH3z0CPXpPhQGpfeB/jJ6GLb6ixcq9XCr8Ig== X-Received: by 10.233.235.133 with SMTP id b127mr20038276qkg.137.1513948402902; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 05:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from richs-mbp-10337.lan (pool-64-222-237-8.port.east.myfairpoint.net. [64.222.237.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w56sm14238137qta.60.2017.12.22.05.13.21 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Dec 2017 05:13:22 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Brown Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F83B1CB8-CEB5-424E-9E9A-4BC7607BC80E" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 08:13:21 -0500 References: To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <867A87C1-A122-4B2A-9F63-DBD33196505B@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Subject: Re: [Bloat] Win10 Updates vs cake X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 13:13:23 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F83B1CB8-CEB5-424E-9E9A-4BC7607BC80E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Dec 22, 2017, at 4:12 AM, Mario Hock > wrote: >=20 > Can you also track packet loss rates / packet loss probability? And = also=20 > throughput/progress of the Windows update connections? Oh, yes... I meant to add in the initial report that during times of = Win10 downloads, packet loss for all services went to pieces. I run Intermapper at home to monitor uptime/packet loss/performance of = lots of devices across the net. During those downloads, packet loss = frequently jumped to 5-6% for most devices. Thanks again, Rich= --Apple-Mail=_F83B1CB8-CEB5-424E-9E9A-4BC7607BC80E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On Dec 22, 2017, at 4:12 AM, Mario Hock <mario.hock@kit.edu> = wrote:

Can you also track packet loss = rates / packet loss probability? And also 
throughput/progress of the Windows update = connections?

Oh, yes... I meant to add in the initial = report that during times of Win10 downloads, packet loss for all = services went to pieces.

I run Intermapper at home to monitor uptime/packet = loss/performance of lots of devices across the net. During those = downloads, packet loss frequently jumped to 5-6% for most = devices.

Thanks = again,

Rich
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