From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x132.google.com (mail-lf1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CC8A3CB35 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 21:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x132.google.com with SMTP id j8-v6so683608lfb.4 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 18:02:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=CElkZ8TAhnh/2wMqqXqV74qg7FNqUDaGtEwgdn1g+qE=; b=SbJstF41NYoqNxSXv3G2KaYRF3C4tXik4AS1repHUc43ntJt0Gt29Baqk8Fhf+OTPW tzvTb6lgpjVgI+Od5MRDVlssVMuzZJThE18lnF/DDwTJ+R6xagoSNtzkOWvX+c7D5J28 G1LSk01ZofT+f/0Ozczw1P/WpX1mrdKbG2irtn1yYacQL8wpe8VhIKzT9LNhXcQU4p1L OV/G5FnljE53Mb6dzdnAC9DEComW3K2WD007vU4kJta7wd19D+DeAjrawGCaCgBa3GMw 6sCK/1zZSR62DoDBWYH6DGQh1cZspNoQzumxbjV2vQtnib5LDTKjieVR5IJqoibNyUbG D2rQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=CElkZ8TAhnh/2wMqqXqV74qg7FNqUDaGtEwgdn1g+qE=; b=cRKsM1KzLsGABmDFd5PoBX+PdmEmi8JJ2FGU3T+/boogkltbJzkSAey7sFaKgiwFf3 2yQozjVbLh+tmdeAx99e+U0Xic9sV4ngv2kFcy0fS0aCzghez2CSdrFnbCRTCCpQLtf3 wM0uOBvs6OylU29BeU6L8H0V8qFlrAwAjT3XUKBkUcBA3Ce6aONxJQLLUrZRsHB8sqHw HUd8US9RsRLj4UIUDWdYSJB/eoQVoIP/HC3oIgJ5YcvYJey0Vrx7Cn8kVaFKBwz1Rju7 4f6rCDxG3sim+t6tX2hZmiohGTwofLWts54hOjXiAvkxywijpBEfeQ7Psprw6vB7c6fI KMMA== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CfDhilri2Sb4H75RjKy4lDOHPg4DSmvxYFl4p2ySNi0zX5NMl0 KtrbzRYoIDJloW1lJOPFwJ0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZVvGWVTeyZ+okw61GDhypBPsZVewixWRbuyY4zi3igCDo7GkDGZM95Rplzywo5ZRG6YADrfA== X-Received: by 2002:a19:124d:: with SMTP id h74-v6mr9496034lfi.107.1535418131083; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 18:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (83-245-238-14-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.238.14]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o72-v6sm132125lfg.31.2018.08.27.18.02.10 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 27 Aug 2018 18:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 04:02:09 +0300 Cc: BBR Development , bloat Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <86DB6513-7F9F-4DE4-BF13-4F64CC0F40A4@gmail.com> References: To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Bloat] [bbr-dev] new paper from Kleinrock on "Power" and to some extent BBR X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 01:02:12 -0000 > On 28 Aug, 2018, at 3:59 am, Dave Taht wrote: > > "Internet congestion control using the power metric: Keep the pipe > just full, but no fuller" is quite a good read (appears to be open > access pdf, too): > > https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570870518302476 Well it isn't letting *me* download the full text. - Jonathan Morton