From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail2.tohojo.dk (mail2.tohojo.dk [77.235.48.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB79221F221 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 08:52:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail2.tohojo.dk Received: by alrua-kau.kau.toke.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 798A4C40272; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 17:51:56 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=toke.dk; s=201310; t=1430149917; bh=CgiG8Yn0aF6ZAIlmMmxSa2ZosXSNMLcQ6HQMmseaBQE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=vU5oefz/ejvEhRa5aZ+eypo8LzFET1HOTrBbqasxxbnytfBn3P3ITt12mI6K5lT/A Gv8aJCpMRrM/tQQeiSUz+v3p1iBlEoAA8+7kakte2JM8i/ts3hX9OlvTft2FiuMJhv E5XzNBpIErvYS/VXU3M0PcKcBO3gAK/ShYLRNWgk= From: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= To: Neil Davies References: <72DB0260-F0DF-426F-A3F3-ECF5D8AF228F@pnsol.com> <877fsx3l5a.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 17:51:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Neil Davies's message of "Mon, 27 Apr 2015 11:57:53 +0100") X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <874mo11sdf.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] Detecting bufferbloat from outside a node X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 15:52:45 -0000 Neil Davies writes: > Depends on your starting point: Right, having looked a bit more at this: > - if it is "how does this relate to the end user" - look at "the > properties and mathematics of data transport quality" This mentions, on slide 30, an analytical model for predicting (changes in) =E2=88=86Q. Is this Judy Holyer's "A Queueing Theory Model for Real Data Networks", or does it refer to something else? -Toke