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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Daniel Sterling <sterling.daniel@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>,
	Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] cake + ipv6
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 13:59:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875z7ujgxe.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZMiucowJpGb336f5+mvb8QaNXxitEukPYOSLM1NFPaurJSDw@mail.gmail.com>

Daniel Sterling <sterling.daniel@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 11:14 AM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
>> It depends. A 'sparse' flow should get consistent priority
>
>> That's per flow. But you're misunderstanding the 100ms value. That's the
>> 'interval', which is (simplifying a bit) the amount of time CAKE will
>> wait until it reacts to a flow building a queue.
>
>> If a flow exceeds its fair share *rate*,
>> it'll no longer (from CAKEs) PoV be a 'sparse flow', and it'll get the
>> same treatment as all other flows (round-robin scheduling), and if it
>> keeps sending at this higher rate, it'll keep being scheduled in this
>> way. If the flow is non-elastic (i.e., doesn't slows down in response to
>> packet drops), it'll self-congest and you'll see that as increased
>> latency.
>
> Ah! Thank you *very* much for this explanation. I greatly appreciate
> the effort everyone in this group puts into explaining (and tolerating
> :) ) new users of cake.
>
> In my case: I am happy to report this is *not* a bug or an issue with
> cake, as I originally thought. I am able to reproduce the issue I was
> seeing (high ping times as reported by the xbox game's network
> monitoring) w/o cake being in the mix at all. So this issue is either
> with how I've configured / built openwrt, or with my wireless network
> mesh, or with the xbox itself. It is NOT an issue with cake.
>
> Thank you all very much again. I will continue to use and test cake
> and let you know if I encounter further issues with cake itself.

You're welcome! Happy experimenting :)

-Toke

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-01 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-18  1:52 Daniel Sterling
2020-08-18  2:28 ` Jonathan Morton
2020-08-18  2:54 ` Kenneth Porter
     [not found] ` <D7DF629BCBA6767D1E78A973@172.27.17.193>
2020-08-18  3:44   ` Daniel Sterling
2020-08-18  4:15     ` Jonathan Morton
2020-08-18  6:41       ` Sebastian Moeller
2020-08-18 14:17 ` Y
2020-08-18 21:55 ` Michael Richardson
2020-09-23 17:36   ` Daniel Sterling
2020-09-23 18:13     ` Jonathan Morton
2020-09-24  1:07       ` Daniel Sterling
2020-09-28  6:22         ` Daniel Sterling
2020-09-28 15:14           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-01  5:09             ` Daniel Sterling
2020-10-01 11:59               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2020-11-18  0:00                 ` [Bloat] openwrt e1000e (was: Re: cake + ipv6) Daniel Sterling
2020-11-20 23:25                   ` [Bloat] finally got the proper cake experience (was: Re: openwrt e1000e (was: Re: cake + ipv6)) Daniel Sterling

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