From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Neil Davies <neil.davies@pnsol.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Detecting bufferbloat from outside a node
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 12:45:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877fsx3l5a.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <72DB0260-F0DF-426F-A3F3-ECF5D8AF228F@pnsol.com> (Neil Davies's message of "Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:54:51 +0100")
Neil Davies <neil.davies@pnsol.com> writes:
> Take a look at http://www.pnsol.com/publications.html, you may find
> http://www.pnsol.com/public/PP-PNS-2009-02.pdf as a good starting
> point.
I've seen this referred on the list before (I assume by you ;)), but
haven't really grok'ed it before. I like the delta-Q measure as a way of
thinking about overall network performance; and there's definitely
parallels to thinking about the end-to-end 'latency budget', which I
also find quite instructive (I think I it picked up from Joe Touch at
some point).
How do you deal with the fact that loss and delay can be exchanged for
each other (via retransmissions)?
Also, which publication would you recommend if I'm interested in
specifically how you 'Mathematically model behaviour and delta-Q' as you
mention in that slide set? :)
-Toke
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-27 10:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-27 9:48 Paolo Valente
2015-04-27 9:54 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 10:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2015-04-27 10:57 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 14:22 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-27 20:27 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 15:51 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-27 20:38 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 21:37 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-28 7:14 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 11:54 ` Paolo Valente
2015-04-27 15:25 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-04-27 20:30 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 23:11 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-04-28 7:17 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-28 9:58 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-04-28 10:23 ` Neil Davies
2015-05-04 10:10 ` Paolo Valente
2015-05-04 10:21 ` Neil Davies
2015-05-04 10:28 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-05-04 10:41 ` Paolo Valente
2015-05-04 10:44 ` Neil Davies
2015-05-04 10:42 ` Neil Davies
2015-05-04 11:33 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-05-04 11:39 ` Neil Davies
2015-05-04 12:17 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-05-04 12:35 ` Neil Davies
2015-05-04 17:39 ` David Lang
2015-05-04 19:09 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-04-28 16:05 ` Rick Jones
2015-04-27 20:13 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 9:57 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-27 10:10 ` Paolo Valente
2015-04-27 10:19 ` Paolo Valente
2015-04-27 10:23 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-27 10:53 ` Paolo Valente
2015-04-27 20:39 ` David Lang
2015-05-04 10:31 ` Paolo Valente
2015-04-27 10:26 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 10:32 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-27 10:38 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 10:52 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-27 11:03 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 12:03 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-27 20:19 ` Neil Davies
2015-05-19 21:23 ` Alan Jenkins
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