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From: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr>
To: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] curious.....
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 14:25:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877gbfcw4t.wl%jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09D8F3A0-7172-4677-9887-119813E28740@gmx.de>

>> The promise of fq_codel is that we can get rid of our prioritising
>> hacks -- if we need that kind of features, then fq_codel has
>> failed.

> Is that really true? given enough concurrent flows, critical flows
> might be delayed purely be the round robin scheduling of equally
> "worthy" packets in fq_codel

At 100 Mbit, one full-size Ethernet frame is 120us.  This means that
if you want your VoIP traffic to have less than 30ms delay, you should
in principle reach your deadline as long as you have fewer than 250
congestion-limited flows at a given time.

> so some residual priory system might still make sense...

For throughput-sharing reasons, perhaps.  For latency reasons, hopefully not.

-- Juliusz

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-08 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-03 18:40 Outback Dingo
2013-12-03 22:25 ` Kenyon Ralph
2013-12-04  0:25   ` Outback Dingo
2013-12-04  0:38     ` Dave Taht
2013-12-06 17:19       ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2013-12-06 18:15         ` Dave Taht
2013-12-07 11:24           ` Sebastian Moeller
2013-12-10 19:05             ` Dave Taht
2013-12-11 10:44               ` Sebastian Moeller
2013-12-07 12:59           ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2013-12-08  1:27             ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2013-12-08  5:24               ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2013-12-08 11:00                 ` Mark Constable
2013-12-08 14:01                   ` Outback Dingo
2013-12-08 14:03                     ` Outback Dingo
2013-12-08 16:44                     ` Mark Constable
2013-12-08 19:00                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2013-12-08 13:12                 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2013-12-08 16:46                   ` Jonathan Morton
2013-12-08 16:51                   ` Dave Taht
2013-12-08 17:56                     ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2013-12-08 21:05                       ` Jonathan Morton
2013-12-08 14:22                 ` Aaron Wood
2013-12-08 14:41                 ` Jim Gettys
2013-12-08 10:40             ` Sebastian Moeller
2013-12-08 13:25               ` Juliusz Chroboczek [this message]
2013-12-08 16:26                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2013-12-08 17:47                   ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2013-12-08 19:02                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2013-12-22  1:38                       ` Dan Siemon
2013-12-22  3:46                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-12-08 19:01                   ` Jonathan Morton
2013-12-08 19:21                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2013-12-08 16:01               ` Neil Davies
2013-12-08 20:41 Hal Murray
2013-12-08 23:16 ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-12-09  9:51 ` Sebastian Moeller

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