From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from us-smtp-delivery-1.mimecast.com (us-smtp-2.mimecast.com [207.211.31.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01B773CB38 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 05:29:05 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1590571745; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=sD17OhXd+pkv1skluPYQEoupIx4p1LUEhW655FZ+2+I=; b=i0yxryDj4p7G64/nWcZGJS/5/fJnpdhG/vNX8nVH4P47JT/rRVDf58NuCy1ndEmFm2v6F7 O0/NkDnpcHcb8WImZTJUr4fHu0ToUuVxIoJc5sMNFyY4ke0AArYUA961YeyFf3t86W+wQv IuwbafMxLjaJWu7GxZ8sTlG6VabMD70= Received: from mail-ej1-f72.google.com (mail-ej1-f72.google.com [209.85.218.72]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-245-HEUSTFQBMyySqK5y_3DLkA-1; Wed, 27 May 2020 05:29:00 -0400 X-MC-Unique: HEUSTFQBMyySqK5y_3DLkA-1 Received: by mail-ej1-f72.google.com with SMTP id g9so7879642ejs.20 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 02:29:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=sD17OhXd+pkv1skluPYQEoupIx4p1LUEhW655FZ+2+I=; b=DgM8itCEI9B5+GFj4+M040aiwZq1mgBxptAG+un+TxjzPV/llFoO/N/0ngVQEGESFk HWvalDMGqKLiMrfbeSmheyiQC+Yqpg8RPQuZoWWsy9rMxECecfLDiBOmK67v9Hp9/aUS olzclOlh14bmooXFBXr8eM7x0HFQQEtYay+d11XjXYA3G4Udwx0NgzzcnQV+WkNGpExP smO7+wUMCyCP8vEKHRheVTaQQ2ZmNxGzHIeW+A4A87BKZOK5eJx3UWCx0SpYFPpkW+Dq dkQcaQ4FXxC2B9VPWzN+86hBRiuJIlqdKgrNMYNu7BCo5j0Q47Sf0kUJWZ38Kx8FmUeE SK7Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530wTZYvNu6GpSHA85QFSfb4rOOym/Bn+VtV4nknTWhC0RJZ9pV9 isfbyELu4Coz4bA0utICDKllUwRNn7AayUHQXHfuM6i2+a3+2B6MdVKFH2G96Clw6TDQvIg+cF3 FnYoj4KVBFXRfw7KzF4EaMUs= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3597:: with SMTP id o23mr5017968ejb.174.1590571739576; Wed, 27 May 2020 02:28:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzPkutQ8acRSs53c82aCXQDJnptB6gpX/72FTHPYL9bZvX088aEBrjkUN3Ktl6SKUUOT6u3JA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3597:: with SMTP id o23mr5017942ejb.174.1590571739308; Wed, 27 May 2020 02:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alrua-x1.borgediget.toke.dk ([45.145.92.2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id cz9sm1720088edb.18.2020.05.27.02.28.58 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 27 May 2020 02:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by alrua-x1.borgediget.toke.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 43EC01804EB; Wed, 27 May 2020 11:28:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= To: Matthew Ford , Sebastian Moeller Cc: Cake List , Make-Wifi-fast , cerowrt-devel , bloat In-Reply-To: <289C7A4A-28B1-4692-AA2B-209347E65415@isoc.org> References: <05410663-5E50-4CF5-8ADE-3BBB985E32B1@gmx.de> <289C7A4A-28B1-4692-AA2B-209347E65415@isoc.org> X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 11:28:57 +0200 Message-ID: <878shd3ew6.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] dslreports is no longer free X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 09:29:06 -0000 Matthew Ford writes: > What's the bufferbloat verdict on https://speed.cloudflare.com/ ? Huh, didn't know about that. Seems they're measuring the latency before the download test, though, so no bufferbloat numbers. If anyone knows someone at Cloudflare we could try to bug to get this fixed, that would be awesome! Their FAQ links to https://www.speedcheck.org/ for "troubleshooting tips". And of course that page doesn't seem to mention latency or bufferbloat at all :( -Toke