From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail2.tohojo.dk (mail2.tohojo.dk [77.235.48.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81A093CB92 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 15:33:32 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail2.tohojo.dk DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=201310; t=1454531608; bh=qJvtL6+/I36DN8ZK6R+cMydGZsP4Ua7hXxDskJELJZE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=tsYrk9HXg6ktuIoLm7THb2Ct7axwm01hhzEgV6BbdghQh88oWoq18lLcoICuHqvaa CKcUYKMl+l35ngoprYjmUiB3oYkAazuThmSbXRnGcRDoxKlkoRUirIUgiUSxwG86f9 KsoQj6j2Ab2zwdxOJPNfSxybBKVub/JkNuumgLAg= Sender: toke@toke.dk Received: by alrua-karlstad.karlstad.toke.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 520335EBF86; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 21:33:27 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= To: John Klimek Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net References: Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 21:33:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: (John Klimek's message of "Wed, 3 Feb 2016 14:22:53 -0500") X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <878u31r0tk.fsf@alrua-karlstad.karlstad.toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [Bloat] Difference between codel and fq_codel? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 20:33:32 -0000 John Klimek writes: > I'm currently using pfaense which only supports codel and not > fq_codel. Is there a big difference between them? Is it worth looking > into using a different router? Yes, and quite possibly. :) Basically, Codel drops packets to try to keep queues small. This works reasonably well. However, what FQ-CoDel adds is flow isolation and priority for sparse flows, which is what in most cases gets rid of almost all of the added latency under load. For a (much) longer version of the above, see this: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1389128615002479 -- In particular, figure 2 shows the performance of a bunch of different algorithms, including CoDel and FQ-CoDel :) -Toke