From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A76D421F0AE for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2013 05:12:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [81.194.30.253]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay1/46573) with ESMTP id rB8DCQJ2012692 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2013 14:12:26 +0100 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328746D5D1 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2013 14:12:26 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at math.univ-paris-diderot.fr Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id NpA4h59kzGye for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2013 14:12:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from pirx.pps.jussieu.fr (unknown [78.194.40.74]) (Authenticated sender: jch) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CD8EF6D5CA for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2013 14:12:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=pirx.pps.jussieu.fr) by pirx.pps.jussieu.fr with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VpeA2-0000ur-8N for bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net; Sun, 08 Dec 2013 14:12:38 +0100 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 14:12:38 +0100 Message-ID: <878uvvcwqh.wl%jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> From: Juliusz Chroboczek To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: References: <20131203222559.GV8066@einstein.kenyonralph.com> <7ieh5pew2d.wl%jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> <87haakx1ev.wl%jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> <20131208012751.GA6382@sesse.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.138]); Sun, 08 Dec 2013 14:12:26 +0100 (CET) X-Miltered: at korolev with ID 52A4703A.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 52A4703A.000 from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/null/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 52A4703A.000 on korolev.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Subject: Re: [Bloat] curious..... X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 13:12:29 -0000 >> FYI: Norway has at least two entirely distinct ISPs that offer 200 >> Mbit/sec or more. > Sweden has a bunch of them as well, 1000/100 is quite common, > 1000/1000 can be had I stand corrected. > The comment about the WNDR3800 not being able to push this is of > course relevant, I think that the WNDR3800 should be able to push a gigabit, even with NAT. Dave's point, as far as I understand, is that the WNDR is not able to push a gigabit *through fq_codel*, so he's looking for ways to automatically replace fq_codel with something simpler at higher rates. My point is that, Scandinavians excepted, most people don't have multigigabit links at home, and so Dave's scripts should still be useful even if they top at 80 Mbit. Of course, (1) optimising fq_codel, (2) making fq_codel do something fast at high data rates, and (3) finding a successor to the WNDR3800 are all laudable goals. -- Juliusz