From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-11-ewr.dyndns.com (mxout-060-ewr.mailhop.org [216.146.33.60]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0B32E044B for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 02:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from scan-12-ewr.mailhop.org (scan-12-ewr.local [10.0.141.230]) by mail-11-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AD192C792 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:40:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 () X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 213.186.56.95 Received: from witko.kerneis.info (witko.kerneis.info [213.186.56.95]) by mail-11-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED25392C780 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bob75-11-78-249-231-16.fbx.proxad.net ([78.249.231.16] helo=trurl.pps.jussieu.fr) by witko.kerneis.info with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PlJ5B-0000wm-6O; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 11:40:05 +0100 Received: from jch by trurl.pps.jussieu.fr with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PlJ55-0000eh-Pj; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 11:39:59 +0100 From: Juliusz Chroboczek To: Luca Dionisi References: <87mxmcdtvh.fsf@trurl.pps.jussieu.fr> <87ei7odsjl.fsf@trurl.pps.jussieu.fr> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 11:39:59 +0100 Message-ID: <878vxwdqww.fsf@trurl.pps.jussieu.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 78.249.231.16 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jch@pps.jussieu.fr X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on witko.kerneis.info); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: bufferbloat list Subject: Re: [Bloat] =?iso-8859-1?q?About_LEDBAT=2C_=B5TP_and_BitTorrent?= X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 10:40:08 -0000 >> Well, the issues of increased delay and greedy, unresponsive flows >> are, to a certain extent, distinct. > I don't get it. Why do we need to make such an assumption? I'm merely saying is that these are distinct issues, and that while solving both would be great, solutions to just one of them are still welcome. --Juliusz