From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-32-ewr.dyndns.com (mxout-064-ewr.mailhop.org [216.146.33.64]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B272E0420 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scan-31-ewr.mailhop.org (scan-31-ewr.local [10.0.141.237]) by mail-32-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8F96F6E6B for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 22:50:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 () X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 75.145.127.229 Received: from gw.co.teklibre.org (75-145-127-229-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [75.145.127.229]) by mail-32-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956DB6F6C04 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 22:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruithne.co.teklibre.org (unknown [IPv6:2002:4b91:7fe5:1::20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cruithne.co.teklibre.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by gw.co.teklibre.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E481E5EBB2 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:50:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by cruithne.co.teklibre.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2373E120889; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:50:00 -0600 (MDT) From: d@taht.net (Dave =?utf-8?Q?T=C3=A4ht?=) To: Jonathan Morton Organization: Teklibre - http://www.teklibre.com References: <4D7F4121.40307@freedesktop.org> <20110315175942.GA10064@goldfish> <1300212877.2087.2155.camel@tardy> <20110315183111.GB2542@tuxdriver.com> <29B06777-CC5F-4802-8727-B04F58CDA9E3@gmail.com> <20110315205146.GF2542@tuxdriver.com> <219C7840-ED79-49EA-929D-96C5A6200401@gmail.com> <20110315151946.31e86b46@nehalam> <1300228592.2087.2191.camel@tardy> <1300229578.2565.29.camel@edumazet-laptop> <87fwqo54n7.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <823E2A7B-4F46-4159-8029-BD3B075CC4CE@gmail.com> <87bp1b6fo0.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <87bp1b4yh4.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <7480559F-1F3B-4CE5-939F-FD9FD3E68E52@cisco.com> <909F3A19-C7DA-4E38-9BB0-A2EA5F625B7F@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:50:00 -0600 In-Reply-To: <909F3A19-C7DA-4E38-9BB0-A2EA5F625B7F@gmail.com> (Jonathan Morton's message of "Mon, 21 Mar 2011 00:45:39 +0200") Message-ID: <87aagpe7af.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Stephen Hemminger , bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCPflavours - timestamps? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 22:50:08 -0000 Jonathan Morton writes: > On 21 Mar, 2011, at 12:18 am, david@lang.hm wrote: > >>> 0) Buffering more than 1 second of data is always unacceptable. Well, in the case of the DTN, it's required. We're not testing interplanetary networks here, (rather, an artificially induced one extending out well beyond the moon!) but it bears a little thinking about. -- Dave Taht http://nex-6.taht.net