From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Neil Davies <neil.davies@pnsol.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Detecting bufferbloat from outside a node
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 12:32:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fv7l3lqo.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30560030-8A86-481D-A310-B3B72C26C368@pnsol.com> (Neil Davies's message of "Mon, 27 Apr 2015 11:26:16 +0100")
Neil Davies <neil.davies@pnsol.com> writes:
> You are asking about the epistemology! Good start. The only things you
> can “know” outside the node are the things you can observe. You can
> infer, from the characteristics of the observations, conformance to
> some avowed model of behaviour.
If we're going all philosophy of science on this, I'll add that the nice
thing about networking is that the computers attached to it can give us
some very specific measurements and we can (with care) provoke quite
specific behaviour to reason about the performance. Try asking a
biologist about the interactions between the life cycle of parasitic
species, their hosts and the ecosystem they live in! :)
-Toke
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-27 10:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-27 9:48 Paolo Valente
2015-04-27 9:54 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 10:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-27 10:57 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 14:22 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-27 20:27 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 15:51 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-27 20:38 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 21:37 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-28 7:14 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 11:54 ` Paolo Valente
2015-04-27 15:25 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-04-27 20:30 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 23:11 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-04-28 7:17 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-28 9:58 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-04-28 10:23 ` Neil Davies
2015-05-04 10:10 ` Paolo Valente
2015-05-04 10:21 ` Neil Davies
2015-05-04 10:28 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-05-04 10:41 ` Paolo Valente
2015-05-04 10:44 ` Neil Davies
2015-05-04 10:42 ` Neil Davies
2015-05-04 11:33 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-05-04 11:39 ` Neil Davies
2015-05-04 12:17 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-05-04 12:35 ` Neil Davies
2015-05-04 17:39 ` David Lang
2015-05-04 19:09 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-04-28 16:05 ` Rick Jones
2015-04-27 20:13 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 9:57 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-27 10:10 ` Paolo Valente
2015-04-27 10:19 ` Paolo Valente
2015-04-27 10:23 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-27 10:53 ` Paolo Valente
2015-04-27 20:39 ` David Lang
2015-05-04 10:31 ` Paolo Valente
2015-04-27 10:26 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 10:32 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2015-04-27 10:38 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 10:52 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-27 11:03 ` Neil Davies
2015-04-27 12:03 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-04-27 20:19 ` Neil Davies
2015-05-19 21:23 ` Alan Jenkins
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