* [Bloat] non queue building flows ietf draft review.
@ 2019-08-24 14:57 Dave Taht
2019-08-24 15:37 ` [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] " Sebastian Moeller
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From: Dave Taht @ 2019-08-24 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ecn-sane, bloat
I decided that perhaps it would be best if we tried harder
to live within the ietf's processes for calm, reasoned discussion
But in trying to review this internet draft...
https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-white-tsvwg-nqb-02.html
I couldn't help myself, and my review is here:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tsvwg/hZGjm899t87YZl9JJUOWQq4KBsk
If someone could make something constructive out of that, great. It
would be good to have a really clear definition of what we mean by
sparse, and good definition and defense on our website of the properties
and benefits of fair queueing.
And I'm going to go off today and try to do something nice for a small
animal, a widow, or an orphan. Maybe plant some flowers.
Some days it doesn't pay to read your accrued inbox messages. Today
was one of them. You needen't read mine either!
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* Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] non queue building flows ietf draft review.
2019-08-24 14:57 [Bloat] non queue building flows ietf draft review Dave Taht
@ 2019-08-24 15:37 ` Sebastian Moeller
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From: Sebastian Moeller @ 2019-08-24 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Taht; +Cc: ECN-Sane, bloat
Hi Dave,
fun fact, the draft is titled "Identifying and Handling Non Queue Building Flows in a Bottleneck Link".
To which the _only_ and obvious answer is one does this by by observing flow-behavior on the element that egresses into the bottleneck link.
Case closed, Nothing to see folks, you can go home... ;)
(I have started to read this thing ages ago and blissfully forgot all about it, time to read it agian?)
Best Regards
Sebastian
> On Aug 24, 2019, at 16:57, Dave Taht <dave@taht.net> wrote:
>
>
> I decided that perhaps it would be best if we tried harder
> to live within the ietf's processes for calm, reasoned discussion
>
> But in trying to review this internet draft...
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-white-tsvwg-nqb-02.html
>
> I couldn't help myself, and my review is here:
>
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tsvwg/hZGjm899t87YZl9JJUOWQq4KBsk
>
> If someone could make something constructive out of that, great. It
> would be good to have a really clear definition of what we mean by
> sparse, and good definition and defense on our website of the properties
> and benefits of fair queueing.
>
> And I'm going to go off today and try to do something nice for a small
> animal, a widow, or an orphan. Maybe plant some flowers.
>
> Some days it doesn't pay to read your accrued inbox messages. Today
> was one of them. You needen't read mine either!
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