[Bloat] Update to status of Make Wi-Fi Fast page?

[Bloat] Update to status of Make Wi-Fi Fast page?

[Rich Brown]

Hi folks,

I have been seeing Jim Gettys' post echo around the intertubes. This caused me to look at what we're saying about the Make Wi-Fi Fast project.

The "Current Status" at https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast/wiki/ says:

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As of early 2017, we have achieved many of these improvements, specifically a decrease of latency by at least an order of magnitude, with fair sharing of air time across fast and slow devices.

	• Working software is available in LEDE firmware that runs on off-the-shelf routers, x86 boxes, and embedded systems.
	• An academic paper describing the current state of the working software has been submitted for publication; a preprint is available at Ending the Anomaly: Achieving Low Latency and Airtime Fairness in Wifi.
	• An earlier recorded presentation and status of the Make Wifi Fast Project
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Does someone who's close to the work want to update this with any news/more conclusive statements? Thanks.

Rich

Re: [Bloat] Update to status of Make Wi-Fi Fast page?

[Toke Høiland-Jørgensen]

Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi folks,
>
> I have been seeing Jim Gettys' post echo around the intertubes. This caused me to look at what we're saying about the Make Wi-Fi Fast project.
>
> The "Current Status" at https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast/wiki/ says:
>
> ---
> As of early 2017, we have achieved many of these improvements, specifically a decrease of latency by at least an order of magnitude, with fair sharing of air time across fast and slow devices.
>
> 	• Working software is available in LEDE firmware that runs on off-the-shelf routers, x86 boxes, and embedded systems.
> 	• An academic paper describing the current state of the working software has been submitted for publication; a preprint is available at Ending the Anomaly: Achieving Low Latency and Airtime Fairness in Wifi.
> 	• An earlier recorded presentation and status of the Make Wifi Fast Project
> ---
>
> Does someone who's close to the work want to update this with any
> news/more conclusive statements? Thanks.

Sure, updated :)

-Toke

Re: [Bloat] Update to status of Make Wi-Fi Fast page?

[Ingemar Johansson S]

Thanks for the prompt reply, good news indeed!. 

Regards
Ingemar

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [mailto:toke@toke.dk]
> Sent: den 16 februari 2018 10:32
> To: Ingemar Johansson S <ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com>;
> bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> Cc: richb.hanover@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Bloat] Update to status of Make Wi-Fi Fast page?
> 
> Ingemar Johansson S <ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com> writes:
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > Thanks for the update and for the link to the conference paper.
> > One short question. Does the WiFi implementation support ECN ?
> 
> Yes, it does (it shares the CoDel code with the fq_codel qdisc). The WiFi stack
> turns off ECN marking if the station bandwidth drops below 6 Mbps (as
> measured by rate control), but otherwise it will ECN mark for eligible flows
> instead of drop. :)
> 
> -Toke

Re: [Bloat] Update to status of Make Wi-Fi Fast page?

[Toke Høiland-Jørgensen]

Ingemar Johansson S <ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com> writes:

> Hi
>
> Thanks for the update and for the link to the conference paper. 
> One short question. Does the WiFi implementation support ECN ?

Yes, it does (it shares the CoDel code with the fq_codel qdisc). The
WiFi stack turns off ECN marking if the station bandwidth drops below 6
Mbps (as measured by rate control), but otherwise it will ECN mark for
eligible flows instead of drop. :)

-Toke

Re: [Bloat] Update to status of Make Wi-Fi Fast page?

[Ingemar Johansson S]

Hi

Thanks for the update and for the link to the conference paper. 
One short question. Does the WiFi implementation support ECN ?

Regards
/Ingemar
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> > On Feb 14, 2018, at 12:00 PM, bloat-request@lists.bufferbloat.net wrote:
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> >> Does someone who's close to the work want to update this with any
> >> news/more conclusive statements? Thanks.
> >
> > Sure, updated :)
> 
> Thanks! (https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast/wiki/
> <https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast/wiki/>)
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Re: [Bloat] Update to status of Make Wi-Fi Fast page?

[Rich Brown]

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> On Feb 14, 2018, at 12:00 PM, bloat-request@lists.bufferbloat.net wrote:
> 
>> Does someone who's close to the work want to update this with any
>> news/more conclusive statements? Thanks.
> 
> Sure, updated :)

Thanks! (https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast/wiki/ <https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast/wiki/>)

Rich

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