From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 847C621F1DE for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 04:58:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from potemkin.univ-paris7.fr (potemkin.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:1]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay1/46573) with ESMTP id rB7Cwr66030279 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 7 Dec 2013 13:58:53 +0100 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [81.194.30.253]) by potemkin.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay2/46573) with ESMTP id rB7Cwr7X020843; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 13:58:53 +0100 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8E96D562; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 13:58:53 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at math.univ-paris-diderot.fr Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id gRrJKElpz0Q1; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 13:58:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from pirx.pps.jussieu.fr (unknown [78.194.40.74]) (Authenticated sender: jch) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 127A96D501; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 13:58:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=pirx.pps.jussieu.fr) by pirx.pps.jussieu.fr with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VpHTM-0001I1-Ct; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 13:59:04 +0100 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 13:59:04 +0100 Message-ID: <87haakx1ev.wl%jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> From: Juliusz Chroboczek To: Dave Taht In-Reply-To: References: <20131203222559.GV8066@einstein.kenyonralph.com> <7ieh5pew2d.wl%jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:2]); Sat, 07 Dec 2013 13:58:53 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (potemkin.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.141]); Sat, 07 Dec 2013 13:58:53 +0100 (CET) X-Miltered: at korolev with ID 52A31B8D.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-Miltered: at potemkin with ID 52A31B8D.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 52A31B8D.001 from potemkin.univ-paris7.fr/potemkin.univ-paris7.fr/null/potemkin.univ-paris7.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 52A31B8D.000 from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/null/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 52A31B8D.001 on korolev.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 52A31B8D.000 on potemkin.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] curious..... X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:58:56 -0000 > > Perhaps you should push your system to OpenWRT? > There is still some work going on to streamline the gui. Fair enough. That's important. > there are less features in the aqm-scripts for prioritizing packet > types than qos-scripts. I wouldn't bother much with that. The promise of fq_codel is that we can get rid of our prioritising hacks -- if we need that kind of features, then fq_codel has failed. > I just had to come up with a way to disable it at high (> 80 mbit) > rates on incoming traffic (not enough cpu in cerowrt), I wouldn't bother with that either. 120 Mbit/s is the highest rate you can get in Europe as far as I can tell, so being able to push 80 Mbit/s on a four year old router is fine (as long as you're careful to avoid shaping traffic between LAN and WLAN -- I certainly wouldn't want backing up my laptop to be capped at 80 Mbit/s). > so I'd like it to run faster, maybe using drr in that case, or > something like what free.fr uses... What are they using? > And there are actually two aqm/packet scheduling shapers in there (a > simple 1 tier and a 3 tier one), Remove the non-default features. Be a man, Dave, dump it all. > In the interim, existing openwrt users can add ceropackages-3.3 into > their feeds. They won't. If you want to have an effect on the world, you need to push it into the default OpenWRT scripts. -- Juliusz